WELCOME HANGER....

[MEATHEAD]

Ithaca a few post back this was in your post and I personally think that this has been alot of the problem all along. We need to poll all the people because they are the ones to which the land belongs not just the hunters. I myself can go off the deep end when I'm on public land hunting and someone comes rideing by on a ATV. But it's public land not hunters land.
"A nationwide poll by the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Alliance showed that 83% of hunters do not want more forest roads.

 

[Ithaca 37]

Meat., You want general public polls?

"The poll found that 86 percent of anglers and 83 percent of hunters supported keeping roadless areas of national forests free of roads."

http://www.gilawilderness.com/local/roadsurvy.htm

"The policy also received nearly 2 million comments, virtually all of which favored strong protection of roadless forests. Poll after poll has shown overwhelming bipartisan support."

http://www.rainforestjukebox.org/wrr20011/wrr_jan/roadless.htm

"A statewide poll concluded 57 percent of Idaho citizens support the Clinton administration proposal to protect Roadless Areas in National Forests.

The level of support jumps to almost two-thirds, 64 percent, when people were asked if they support protection of the remaining 8 million acres of roadless forests in Idaho......Half of the National Forest lands in the U.S. have already been logged, mined, have roads and remain open to commercial development. 18% is permanently protected. The remaining 31% are wild but unprotected roadless areas. The Clinton administration has proposed to protect nearly all of these remaining wild but unprotected areas. This means that it could be used for most types of recreation, including hunting, camping and fishing, but that logging, new roads, mining, oil drilling, and off-road vehicles would be prohibited. Do you favor or oppose this proposal? (Is that strongly or somewhat support/oppose?)

Strongly support: 39%
Somewhat support: 18%
Somewhat oppose: 12%
Strongly oppose: 26%"
http://www.forwolves.org/ralph/Idaho%20Roadless%20Poll.htm

"A poll released last summer by the Heritage Forests Campaign, The Wilderness Society and the National Audubon Society revealed that Americans strongly support the protection of roadless areas. Cutting across political party, gender and regional lines, 63 percent of those polled believe there is not enough protected wilderness in the United States."

http://www.enn.com/enn-features-archive/2000/02/02012000/candidatespl_9120.asp

"A survey conducted in August 1998 by Lake Snell Perry & Associates found that 65% of the diverse 1000 registered voters from across the country favored protecting roadless wild forests from development.

A nationwide poll conducted by the Melmann Group, Inc. in July 1999 concluded that the overwhelming majority of Americans favor protecting more National Forest land as Wilderness. Sixty-three percent support a proposal to protect wild areas larger than 1,000 acres, while more than 70 percent favor a ban on oil drilling and logging.

During 2000 more than 6,000 Washington residents, by a 38 to 1 margin, commented in favor of a proposed rule to protect 58 million acres of National Forest roadless areas across the country, including nearly 2 million acres in the state."

http://www.wawild.org/kiosk/why_more_wilderness.htm

"A strong majority of voters (67%) favor a recently adopted policy to protect the last 30% of National Forest lands, with 49% saying they favor this policy strongly (19% oppose). Support for this ruling cuts across partisan and regional lines. Seventy-six percent (76%) of Democrats, 66% of independents and even 58% of Republicans support protecting these areas. Similarly, support is strong in all regions of the country. Seventy-one percent (71%) of people from the Northeast, 68% of Midwesterners, 65% of Southerners and 64% of those in the West favor the rule to protect pristine National Forest lands."

http://environet.policy.net/proactive/newsroom/release.vtml?id=22314

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[cjcj]

HEY what about us road hunter`s?

 

[BuzzH]

cjcj, theres 380,000 miles of roads for you to road hunt on FS lands in the U.S. is that enough?

If not theres plenty more on BLM and private lands for you to drive down the road "hunting".

Ever heard of boots and feet? Just curious.

 

[cjcj]

yep buzz that`s quite enough, cause i alway`s fill my tag.

 

[cjcj]

oh yea i heard of boot`s and feet iv`e got one of each. i am a so called ROAD HUNTER! i used to hate those lazy bastard`s now i`m one of them, but it`s not by choice there`s a couple of guys who know my situation, cfree, few, and delw, so i won`t go into detail , i`m a little handicapped and can usualy get about 100 yds. from the truck, so i`m just saying not all road hunter`s are lazy bastartd`s just 90% of them are.

 

[BigHornyRam]

Buzz,

I thought we were talking about the Greehorn transplant? There are no domestic sheep in the Greenhorns. There only one domestic herd in the Gravellies. The only time these sheep come close to the Greenhorns is when they trail in and out. They pass 6 miles away. Normal summer ground for this domestic herd is 20 miles from the Greenhorns. A lot of details have been worked out to make this transplant sucessful. Based on your questions and assumptions, you are not aware of current information.

If the sheep producer wants to hang it up, we will help facilitate the buy out his grazing allotment. With wolves and low wool prices, I'm sure that day will come. But he is stubborn, and will hang it up only when he is good and ready. I kinda like him being there, adds a little balance. Last month, another pack of wolves got smoked by the gummint.

Paul

 

[kiwi hunta]

Does Greenhorn know your'e talking about him and sheep ? is that allowed on here.

 

[danr55]

Kiwi, The only problem Greenhorn has with sheep is he keeps picking the ugly ones.... he does leave me the fat ones though....

 

[MEATHEAD]

Ithaca, That's all you should use when your talking about polls.