OntarioHunter
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Don, you're still living in the past. Most of the cheap O/Us marketed by the old American brands aren't made by them. Imported from overseas, usually Turkey. And almost entirely junk! Manufacturers today are concerned about little else than bottom line for sales and, more importantly, marketing. Get some clown with a TV hunting show to use the crap and people will buy it. Or set up a booth at SHOT Show. If you don't think gun makers make junk, go pick up a Stoeger pump or Remington's low end pump. Two years ago I looked at a Rem 887 in Grand Forks Scheels on my way to Montana. The sales clerk came over and asked what I thought. "I think I need a shower to wash off the crap." Good guns, like good cars, have become too expensive. Unlike cars, it's impossible to get a bank loan for a gun that's out of the financial reach for a working man. So he buys what he can afford. And he buys into the image he sees on the TV shows ... like every upland hunter must shoot an O/U, smoke cigars, and sip bourbon. So he buys a cheap O/U, smokes cheap cigars, and drinks rotgut booze with a catchy name and label. Just to look the part. That's why brand new junk guns sell today. Quality and support just doesn't matter. Gun makers are selling to a captive audience. What choice does a college student have who wants to go to the club with an O/U slung over his shoulder like all the hotshots (or wannabe hotshots). A $500 model looks good ... until it craps out.People have the habit of liking and recommending the guns they use, of course if they like them only. Guy get's an 870 for his first shotgun and use's it the next ten years and never handles another gun and ask him to recommend something and it's probably gonna be an 870! problem with recomendations is few people have used enough different brand's of anything really enough to say which is better. I see $500 O/U's got bashed but I saw a new one in a Bi mart that looked pretty nice to me. if I was into O/U's I'd try one. My 20ga CZ SxS cost me under $500 new and my latest CZ 28ga Bob White cost me $300 with ten box's of ammo and looks new. It not a Purdey but it didn't cost $100K either! I'm not so sure there's a gun on the market I'd call junk, why in the world would any name brand gun maker market a piece of junk. But there are certainly different brands and some I like better than other's but that does not make the other's junk! You want to know what to get? Go looking for what you can find local so you can pick it up and handle it a bit and get the one you like. Could be you'll have a problem here and there and most reputaable companys will take care of it for you. You don't make a living selling products by running off your customer's. Stick to older established brands early on and trade up as you gain experience. Now and then you will maybe get burned, no guarantee you won't get a bad one but get it from a company that has a reputation for taaking care of customer's. Would not phase me to buy a new Remington pump, I just wouldn't go for their inexpensive model's. Samr with any other company. Look for something you like and give it a shot! The only one that has to like what you get is you!
As for $500 O/U's it may be true you won't get much for $500 but, saw, I think it was a, Stevens O/U some time back brand new for just under $500 and if I was into O/U's I'd have bought it. My experience with Steven's is an old 12ga SxS I had years ago. heavy but indistructable! I'm sure Stevens is like Purdy. Now and then a bad one get's out! Steven's has been around a long time, there's a reason for that!