Should stay the same or get better.
POI will likely change, but groups should not negatively change
To cut or not to cut, that is the question. Suppressor & Barrel Length
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Should stay the same or get better.
POI will likely change, but groups should not negatively change
All factually correct. But you are the anomaly. I would say those issues do not impact 90% of hunters. You’re really stretching it out if you’re worrying about dialing capacity of your scope…
I had a few minutes so I actually ran some number for my 300 win. I shoot a Berger 200 gr hybrid out of that rifle
24” is roughly 2950 fps
400 yards- 22.4” drop, 5.4 moa, 3.6“ drift for a 5 mph crosswind
1000 yards- 246“ drop, 23.5 moa, 26” drift
20” would roughly be 2850 fps
400 yards- 24.5” drop, 5.8 moa, 3.8” drift
1000 yards- 266” drop, 25.5 moa, 27.8” drift
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sccritterkiller
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In my experience it depends on the rifle. Its seems to me the more of the barrel that is free floated the more the POI shifts. I get big shifts on my ARs 16" barrels..like 4" at 100 yds when adding the can. On my FC that is bedded to the end of the stock 18" barrel...I get zero POI shift between can and no can. My can is titanium and comes in at 12.5oz...
Haven't noticed any huge change in grouping can vs no can.
No. I have fired suppressed rifles. Why is it that suppressor guys find it so hard to understand that some shooters don't want or need one? I don't have any rifles I would cut. Not buying any that are. I totally understand what suppressors are and what they do. Having one wouldn't make my rifles function any differently for my purposes. mtmuley
When I got my first suppressor I was expecting too much based upon internet chatter. It does reduce the blast a bit, but it certainly is still very loud and nothing helps the supersonic crack. I have a few rifles that I use suppressors on and many that I do not. When I shoot at large game animals it is almost always a single shot, and when at the range I wear phones. I can see more use from one on a varmint rifle than a on big game rifle.
I would not suggest cutting and threading all of your barrels until you have had some real world experience with a suppressor.
I would not suggest cutting and threading all of your barrels until you have had some real world experience with a suppressor.
Whether or not if you’ve fired one wasn’t the question. I know you’ve shot one but I dont know if that’s 1 round or 1000 rounds and to me that makes a difference. I wasn’t sold on them the first few times I shot one either but my opinions changed when I actually got some real experience with one. And why is it so hard for you to understand that people want to chop barrels down and shoot them? I just can’t figure out why you need to jump into every suppressor thread. I can only imagine what would happen if someone always commented on how stupid a RUM is.
blueridge
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You mean it’s not like the movies?!?! Just the sweet crisp sound of trigger break, the tempered rap of a firing pin, and a poof as sweet and soft as a bee fart?!?
BackofBeyond
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No, it’s like all of that but a unicorn fart instead of a bee.
RUMS are stupid. Comment away. And I can't remember ever reccomending one. I just don't want one of those things hanging off my barrel. Just me. I won't comment again. mtmuley
BackofBeyond
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Who are you and what have you done with my friend Dale?
They are only stupid to those of them that don't know any better. Takes a special shooter to deal with one. That's you and me and harley. mtmuley
p_ham
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What about me!? I have one in my safe!! -Oh wait, that's just visiting. Carry on!
Nice. Details? PM if you want. mtmuley
BackofBeyond
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p_ham
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Give me 3 minutes and I can change that!
BackofBeyond
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@p_ham is going to be a RUM expert.
p_ham
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I'll add them to the list
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When I’m hunting elk, I could care less about the report of my rifle. The elk doesn’t hear it, he’s dead before the sound could even get there.
Prairie dogs are a different story, when you hammer them for hours, suppression becomes more relevant. I just got my first suppressor for my 204 Ruger and soon I will take a bunch of my varmint rifles to the gunsmith and have him thread them up for the suppressor. I won’t cut any barrels, just thread them as I want every inch of velocity in my varmint rifles, and off a bench, the additional length is of no consequence.
$800.00 and a year wait for a suppressor makes me see the economy of one suppressor on multiple guns…
Prairie dogs are a different story, when you hammer them for hours, suppression becomes more relevant. I just got my first suppressor for my 204 Ruger and soon I will take a bunch of my varmint rifles to the gunsmith and have him thread them up for the suppressor. I won’t cut any barrels, just thread them as I want every inch of velocity in my varmint rifles, and off a bench, the additional length is of no consequence.
$800.00 and a year wait for a suppressor makes me see the economy of one suppressor on multiple guns…
The problem I found with using a suppressor on PD’s is that in high volume shooting, the suppressor gets hot very fast and throws my accuracy off. In lower volume situations, they are great.
I cut some of my varmint barrels to accommodate suppressors, others I left unthreaded. My opinion is uncut is ridiculously long(But we don’t shoot off benches). Also, for me anyway, bullet placement is way more important than fps.
The great thing about PD shooting is all of the different ways of having a great shoot.
