pabearhunter
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IF YOU are NOT responsible enough to carry a weapon with a chambered round WITH the SAFETY ON and the MUZZLE pointed in a SAFE direction. YOU should not have a weapon to begin with !!!!!!
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Super sad story for Jay and families. Been a while since I've been able to jump on here but going to throw my 2 cents in. I USED to hunt with one in the chamber when I was younger, maybe a little naïve about potential accidents, maybe because I didn't have any near misses. However, more the last 10 years, and mostly the last 5 or 6 when my kids and others kids are hunting with me, there is no bending the rule when hunting with me. There are NO loaded chambers until we are ready to shoot, and since for the most part, I spend almost no time on the gun anymore as I'm typically watching my kids shoot or friends kids shoot, we are only taking shots that are good setups and not hurried. We had a great learning lesson this year with my boy as we were hunting Thanksgiving morning and my son slipped and slammed into the mountainside and as I turned around to see if he was ok, I noticed his rifle was pointing straight at me......all out of his control as he was lucky to even keep the rifle near him on the fall. It was a perfect learning lesson as to why we do things the way we do. I explained to him right at that very moment that this is the exact reason we just don't take the risk. Had there been one in the chamber, and the impact would have caused a discharge, that bullet may have gone right through my back. As a few have said that they can't recall ever not being able to chamber a round fast enough to lose an animal, I'm still not convinced that even if it cost me an animal that it would change my mind...……….it most certainly wont when I have kids along. Kids learn from your example, if you tell them something 100 times but you do something different than what you preach, then they are still going to think its ok because you did it. No animal is worth going through the tragedies that some have faced.
IF YOU are NOT responsible enough to carry a weapon with a chambered round WITH the SAFETY ON and the MUZZLE pointed in a SAFE direction. YOU should not have a weapon to begin with !!!!!!
Lots of things can happen that can cause a firearm to have a failure of control of a muzzle. The safety may mitigate that....or an empty chamber will negate. I don't sit much in a tree.
IT is not the firearm that caused the failure of control of the muzzle.
IF YOU are NOT responsible enough to carry a weapon with a chambered round WITH the SAFETY ON and the MUZZLE pointed in a SAFE direction. YOU should not have a weapon to begin with !!!!!!
IF YOU are NOT responsible enough to carry a weapon with a chambered round WITH the SAFETY ON and the MUZZLE pointed in a SAFE direction. YOU should not have a weapon to begin with !!!!!!
The problem with this grand over simplification of the issue is that many folks who think they meet your standard still end up shooting themselves or others every year.
Then maybe you should teach them to keep their finger OUT of the trigger guard.
It's odd how far guys will go to argue/justify their ignorant ways.
Everybody should watch the first 5 minutes of the video at the Fb link and think about how they do things.
Mike Drexler was the father of a friend. A terrible tragedy that happened to fine men on both ends of the gun.
https://www.facebook.com/100004543871821/posts/1111992622295523/
Everybody should watch the first 5 minutes of the video at the Fb link and think about how they do things.
Mike Drexler was the father of a friend. A terrible tragedy that happened to fine men on both ends of the gun.
https://www.facebook.com/100004543871821/posts/1111992622295523/
I get the concern over losing an animal. I hunt thick timber often and feel I could lose one because of racking a round, but I agree with critter when he said, "I'm still not convinced that even if it cost me an animal that it would change my mind."
There has been a fair amount of study when it comes to Risk Analysis. Firefighting trainings I've sat through always harp on it. The Swiss Cheese Model is an accident causation model. When accidents happen it is usually many little things that align. Having one in the chamber is a big hole in the last slice of cheese that doesn't have to exist.
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