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The Tom Brady of Wildlife Feeding

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Listen, sheriff, you can't trample my personal property rights to conduct chemical experiments on my own private property in my own private kitchen just 'cuz it smells like meth and the pusher said he got it here. I got propty rights!
You can argue my points all you want the fact is its not illegal to put food on your property and you can't prove why someone put the food there to convict them unless you make a law that its illegal to put food on your property. If you want that law then fine. I do not want that law.
 
You can argue my points all you want the fact is its not illegal to put food on your property and you can't prove why someone put the food there to convict them unless you make a law that its illegal to put food on your property. If you want that law then fine. I do not want that law.
Actually, in many places it is illegal to leave edible items out and accessible to wildlife.

One of many examples:


I imagine the woman in the article is subject to something very similar.
 
Don't ruin a radical property rights ideology with facts.
Furthermore I didnt say what she is doing is ok or ethical. I wouldn't do that. But she does have rights. Something I'm fairly certain you don't care about since more govt and laws is the answer to everything right?
 
Hmmm ... where have we heard that before. Is Ruby Ridge in Southeast Idaho?
Randy weaver had a bench warrant for failing to appear for firearms charges. Whats your point...cause I'm pretty sure not appearing in court is breaking the law. I could be wrong tho.
 
Furthermore I didnt say what she is doing is ok or ethical. I wouldn't do that. But she does have rights. Something I'm fairly certain you don't care about since more govt and laws is the answer to everything right?
Nope, and my name is on several deeds in two counties, both of which have laws, regulations, and policies which somewhat differ. I respect and obey those for my own rights as well as for the rights of others and something called the "rights of the public". If those restrictions seem unfair, I study the when, why and wherefore and go to my elected representative with a reasonable argument to revise them. I don't just tell him or her I'll do what I want on my property and gubment and laws are bad.
 
So a garden is illegal?
I’m not going to engage in an argument with you since we mostly agree this lady is dumb. Read the ordinance. Those specifics are addressed. But they weren’t coming to her garden. She was placing attractants. And no, I expect at most she’ll receive a citation if that is the penalty in this case, as I said in my first post.

Having rights does not remove your responsibility to obey laws. I’m not sure when and where “rights” were redefined as meaning not being subject to laws. Our entire democracy and Constitution is built on them. Your rights do not trump your neighbors’ rights to enjoy their yards or walk down a public street without worrying about being mauled by the grizzly bears you are bringing into the neighborhood.
 
Nope, and my name is on several deeds in two counties, both of which have laws, regulations, and policies which somewhat differ. I respect and obey those for my own rights as well as for the rights of others and something called the "rights of the public". If those restrictions seem unfair, I study the when, why and wherefore and go to my elected representative with a reasonable argument to revise them. I don't just tell him or her I'll do what I want on my property and gubment and laws are bad.
I do the same.
Thank you for speaking in your native tongue in that last sentence.

"Six weeks later, an assistant attorney at the U.S. District Court of Wyoming discussed the case with someone in the criminal division. The attorneys concluded they would have a “difficult time convicting” the Jackson Hole resident of feeding grizzlies because she stated she placed feed for moose, and not the bears. With that, the U.S. Attorney’s Office declined to prosecute. Absent violations of state law, they recommended the case be closed.

The plight of DeBolt and Stoinski’s case highlights the difficulty of prosecuting and stopping backyard wildlife feeding in Wyoming, where the state legislature has declined on multiple occasions to criminalize an activity that’s often condemned by wildlife managers.

Rep. Andy Schwartz, a Teton County Democrat, has attempted to pass a state law banning such wildlife feeding. He last introduced a bill when the Wyoming Legislature convened in 2016. That bill did not make it out of committee because conservative Republican lawmakers were not interested in infringing on people’s private property rights, Schwartz told the News&Guide."


What she is doing is in no way beneficial to anyone or any animal, but clearly she has rights and if she is to be prosecuted most likely a new law would have to be put in place. I dont agree with that law.
I live out in the middle of nowhere. I put out bird feeders and I think thats completely ok. Someplace where there is grizz or something that might not be ok, but I'm not gonna tell someone it's ok for me to put out bird feeders on my property but its not ok for you to put them on YOUR property. That would make me a hypocrite.
If I lived somewhere with an ordinance like that I would follow it, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. I agree that its not a good idea to put out food in that area I just don't agree with a law telling a property owner what they can and can't do on their property. I also think if someone wants to do certain things they should buy property where they can do it without city or HOA ordinances to worry about.
 
I’m not going to engage in an argument with you since we mostly agree this lady is dumb. Read the ordinance. Those specifics are addressed. But they weren’t coming to her garden. She was placing attractants. And no, I expect at most she’ll receive a citation if that is the penalty in this case, as I said in my first post.

Having rights does not remove your responsibility to obey laws. I’m not sure when and where “rights” were redefined as meaning not being subject to laws. Our entire democracy and Constitution is built on them. Your rights do not trump your neighbors’ rights to enjoy their yards or walk down a public street without worrying about being mauled by the grizzly bears you are bringing into the neighborhood.
The link wouldn't work. We agree on all of it. Except for maybe a little bit in which I explained above. Im not saying I'm right and your wrong or vice versus. Im just saying I don't agree with certain laws that infringe on a person's ability to use their property freely. I hate it when people are knuckleheads like the one in this example. I wish it didn't happen and people had common sense. Instead we have to make ordinances of all kinds to deal with these situations. It annoys me.
 
Wait until someone is mauled in her subdivision.

Then sue her ass silly with a civil suit, you'll get her house, she'll be in a padded room at the State mental hospital, and the offending bears will get euthanized.

Ain't property "rights" grand?
 
Ordianances of this nature pave the way for stupid ordinances like a neighbor complaining about a neighbor having chickens and they don't like chickens and this complaining neighbor knows a city councilmen and bitches to them and next thing you know.....nobody is legally able to have chickens within a certain area according to the ordinance. Seen it happen to one of my customers and my fresh egg supply was gone.
 
Pretty weak attempt at insult, but perhaps reflection of another negative bias.

BTW, I agree with all of your blather in post #53.
It was weak, but not everybody who doesn't like government speaks like they have no teeth like your typing would appear to imply.
 
'Don't know if that's an insult or not, but carry on.

(You have no idea who I am nor of my dental health.)
It was not an insult directed at you or anyone else. You threw the insult at people you never met with your intentional misspelling.
 
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