Tariffs and Potential Inflation

[BigHornRam]

Helienne. Should be able to Google it and find mention of their decision being based on concerns with threats made by the incoming administration.

My understanding is that there are Chinese panels available but quality concerns exist with them....I know someone who's been waiting months for the good panels he ordered to come in.

That's funny. The Heliene website says that their supply chain is short.

Story you are referencing.

Potential MN solar cell plant on pause as Trump weighs climate tax credits

Canada-based Heliene Inc. won’t move ahead with building the second solar cell plant in the U.S. until it knows how Trump will handle the Inflation Reduction Act. Heliene assembles solar parts on the Iron Range and soon in Rogers.

www.startribune.com

If a Canadian company needs USG subsidies in order to move their business into the USA, sounds like a shakey business to begin with.

 

[SAJ-99]

Not exactly.

Risk = probability x expected potential cost

Potential costs with tariffs could break companies - so independent of the probability being low there is obvious risk

The only way you front load purchases is if you know you, the importer, will have to pay the tariff if they come. Also predictable, if they do happen, they will pass it all through to the customer, at at least at the start.

 

[Alpine01]

That's funny. The Heliene website says that their supply chain is short.

Story you are referencing.

Potential MN solar cell plant on pause as Trump weighs climate tax credits

Canada-based Heliene Inc. won’t move ahead with building the second solar cell plant in the U.S. until it knows how Trump will handle the Inflation Reduction Act. Heliene assembles solar parts on the Iron Range and soon in Rogers.

www.startribune.com

If a Canadian company needs USG subsidies in order to move their business into the USA, sounds like a shakey business to begin with.

That was one of the factors I incorporated into my solar energy business cases. You have to consider the cases where subsidies (upfront manufacturing, and back-end tax credits) aren't in the mix. Those can be huge swingers relative to positive/negative ROI and NPV metrics.

 

[Huntin' Fool]

The Tax code
The Reagan Tax cuts
The Bush Tax cuts
The Trump Tax cuts.
For the last 40 years the GOP has written and signed nearly all of the tax code. Dems have had little input.
The tax code has allowed the monopolies to form in our economy reducing competition.
It has allowed the export of manufacturing.
Capitalism with rules works.
Capitalism without rules doesn’t.

Citizens United - Made Corporations People
Allowed corporations to pay the fines and do the time for illegal acts made by individuals.
Trump Tax Cuts - Made Rich People Corporations
Allowed individuals to write off all living expenses, defer all Capital gains, and not pay any taxes.

 

[BigHornRam]

The Tax code
The Reagan Tax cuts
The Bush Tax cuts
The Trump Tax cuts.
For the last 40 years the GOP has written and signed nearly all of the tax code. Dems have had little input.
The tax code has allowed the monopolies to form in our economy reducing competition.
It has allowed the export of manufacturing.
Capitalism with rules works.
Capitalism without rules doesn’t.

Citizens United - Made Corporations People
Allowed corporations to pay the fines and do the time for illegal acts made by individuals.
Trump Tax Cuts - Made Rich People Corporations
Allowed individuals to write off all living expenses, defer all Capital gains, and not pay any taxes.

Bet your glad Rachel's coming back to you for 5 day's a week now.

 

[RemingtonRules]

The Tax code
The Reagan Tax cuts
The Bush Tax cuts
The Trump Tax cuts.
For the last 40 years the GOP has written and signed nearly all of the tax code. Dems have had little input.
The tax code has allowed the monopolies to form in our economy reducing competition.
It has allowed the export of manufacturing.
Capitalism with rules works.
Capitalism without rules doesn’t.

Citizens United - Made Corporations People
Allowed corporations to pay the fines and do the time for illegal acts made by individuals.
Trump Tax Cuts - Made Rich People Corporations
Allowed individuals to write off all living expenses, defer all Capital gains, and not pay any taxes.

Some correct but mostly incorrect information. Echo chamber information.

 

[Huntin' Fool]

Some correct but mostly incorrect information. Echo chamber information.

Please correct my incorrect info.

 

[Huntin' Fool]

This guy wrote the Bush tax cuts and the Patriot Act.


Dennis Hastert (/ˈhæstərt/; born January 2, 1942) is a former American politician, member of the Republican party and a sex offender who represented Illinois's 14th congressional district from 1987 to 2007 and served as the 51st speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1999 to 2007.[1] The longest-serving Republican speaker of the House in history, Hastert resigned and began work as a lobbyist after the Democrats gained a majority in the chamber in 2007. In 2016 he was sentenced to 15 months in prison for the sexual abuse of teenage boys.[2][3]


A real pedo.

 

[RemingtonRules]

Please correct my incorrect info

Don’t have to go back far to prove the GOP are not the primary tax code changers.


At the outset of his administration, President Biden proposed major tax changes as part of his policy initiatives. With narrow control of the 117th Congress, Democrats enacted some significant tax law changes as part of the “Inflation Reduction Act” in August 2022

We know how well that worked

 

[RemingtonRules]

This guy wrote the Bush tax cuts and the Patriot Act.


Dennis Hastert (/ˈhæstərt/; born January 2, 1942) is a former American politician, member of the Republican party and a sex offender who represented Illinois's 14th congressional district from 1987 to 2007 and served as the 51st speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1999 to 2007.[1] The longest-serving Republican speaker of the House in history, Hastert resigned and began work as a lobbyist after the Democrats gained a majority in the chamber in 2007. In 2016 he was sentenced to 15 months in prison for the sexual abuse of teenage boys.[2][3]


A real pedo.

Really, so all people of this party are the same. Cannot believe you are going there. But a drowning man gets desperate.

Biden commuted the sentences of three Chinese nationals: one convicted on child pornography charges and two convicted of espionage-related charges.

A real patriot.

 

[Nick87]

A real pedo.

A convicted pedo.

 

[BigHornRam]

Don’t have to go back far to prove the GOP are not the primary tax code changers.


At the outset of his administration, President Biden proposed major tax changes as part of his policy initiatives. With narrow control of the 117th Congress, Democrats enacted some significant tax law changes as part of the “Inflation Reduction Act” in August 2022

We know how well that worked

The IRA was entirely partisan. Big reason why the Democrats lost control of the house, and now the Senate and the Executive branch.

The Bush Tax cuts for the wealthy was bipartisan.

Senate Passes Grassley-Baucus Tax RELIEF Act | U.S. Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa

Senate Passes Grassley-Baucus Tax RELIEF Act ? The Senate today passed legislation to provide...

www.grassley.senate.gov

"The Senate passed the Restoring Earnings to Lift Individuals and Empower Families (RELIEF) Act of 2001 on a vote of 62 to 38. The final bill is nearly identical to the measure passed by the Committee on Finance last Tuesday. After days of debate, the Senate didn't adopt any amendments that substantially changed the legislation. A group of non-controversial proposals identified through the amendment process and reviewed by Grassley and Baucus were included in a manager's amendment as part of the final passage."

 

[Huntin' Fool]

Money Bills start in the house, written by the GOP. You're correct that Dems joined in - lobbyists bribed everyone.

Manufacturing left well before Biden.

 

[RemingtonRules]

Money Bills start in the house, written by the GOP. You're correct that Dems joined in - lobbyists bribed everyone.

Manufacturing left well before Biden.

We see what we want to see and hear what we want to hear.

 

[COraggy]

Until I can head to the local Toyota dealer and buy a Hilux this is all just smoke.

Im with you!

 

[ismith]

Money Bills start in the house, written by the GOP. You're correct that Dems joined in - lobbyists bribed everyone.

Manufacturing left well before Biden.

The vast majority of the GOP sucks as bad as the Democrats, what’s your point?

 

[BuzzH]

The vast majority of the GOP sucks as bad as the Democrats, what’s your point?

The point is there's going to be a major shit storm one of these days if both parties don't start doing something for the working class, well, other than breaking it off in their ass every chance they get.

I think people are about over catering to the billionaires, even the millionaires are getting sick of it.

 

[ismith]

The point is there's going to be a major shit storm one of these days if both parties don't start doing something for the working class, well, other than breaking it off in their ass every chance they get.

I think people are about over catering to the billionaires, even the millionaires are getting sick of it.

I think that was more along the lines of my thinking, not your burner accounts, but ok.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

 

[BigHornRam]

The point is there's going to be a major shit storm one of these days if both parties don't start doing something for the working class, well, other than breaking it off in their ass every chance they get.

I think people are about over catering to the billionaires, even the millionaires are getting sick of it.

Sounds like you are singing this song, Buzz.

 

[Nick87]

well, other than breaking it off in their ass every chance they get.

Yah, both of em have really perfected that. It's what they seem to enjoy the most.