Serious weed help needed.

[mtmuley]

Can’t start something you never stopped.

Huh? mtmuley

 

[Gellar]

Plantain is a problem in compacted soils and after short mowings. Mow a little longer, aerate your grass.
Edit to add: after you aerate it this fall, overseed it.

 

[mtmuley]

Saw the title and thought you were gonna start smoking the devils lettuce @mtmuley.

Not my thing. I think I smoked it 2 or 3 times in 58 years. mtmuley

 

[mtmuley]

Plantain is a problem in compacted soils and after short mowings. Mow a little longer, aerate your grass.

This is hay field. Cut two times a year. mtmuley

 

[Gellar]

Interesting article on plantains resistance to broad leaf herbicides.

New herbicide helps fight plantain

Alfalfa farmers may have one more weapon to use in their battle against plantain, a notoriously difficult-to-control weed in alfalfa cropping systems, according to Leslie Beck

hayandforage.com

 

[MtsPSU]

This is hay field. Cut two times a year. mtmuley

Reach out to your county cooperative extension office and they will help advise you (you can look up the Montana State, Penn State, Iowa State, CSU and other extension office websites to assist you). I use 2-4D since it is pretty easy to kill when you stay after it.

Mark

 

[SD_Prairie_Goat]

I have 5 acres to deal with. I want someone that knows what they are doing to look at my situation. mtmuley

Well you're not going to find that online. Seek out your county extension agronomist so they can most likely tell you 24D is the easy solution and safe on grass

 

[Robert N]

RM43 Glyphosate concentrate. I use it on my lease with poison ivy and other highly aggressive weeds. I also use it around the house for weed control.

Takes about 2 weeks but it absolutely does the job. Spray and walk away.

 

[Carnage2011]

One thing to consider, that many people don’t understand, is the difference between kill and control. 24D doesn’t control many weeds. It’s an acid used as a burn down for most weeds and “kills” most broadleaves. It’s fairly ineffective for control of most weeds. Kill=disappear for that year. Control=longterm.

 

[Carnage2011]

RM43 Glyphosate concentrate. I use it on my lease with poison ivy and other highly aggressive weeds. I also use it around the house for weed control.

Takes about 2 weeks but it absolutely does the job. Spray and walk away.

Do NOT do this in your field @mtmuley

 

[Robert N]

Do NOT do this in your field @mtmuley

it will absolutely kill everything...

 

[Jamen]

I would look at something with some residual. If this is just grass hay and no alfalfa i would recommend HighNoon. Also, very good for a wide range of other broad leaves. Do not use glyphosate, yes itll kill the plantain but will kill everything else. Your county should have a weed specialist. I am our local weed officer. I do not have much experience in plantain control but a few people i asked recommended Highnoon if it is grass only.

 

[Wild Bill]

Some good info in the pdf..
As Carnage said, there is a difference in control and kill. Often the use of herbicide is something you need to stay up with annually or even semi-annually to stay on top.

 

[Phaseolus]

Check the label? Or send us a picture?


This would do it. Safe on grass if you follow the directions mainly on temp applied at

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Spectracide-Weed-Stop-For-Lawns-40-fl-oz-Concentrated-Lawn-Weed-Killer/1000769722

Cheap test compared to the weed companies I suppose?

Spectracide is just a more expensive way to purchase 2,4-D

 

[Phaseolus]

Buckhorn Plantain is a cool season weed so it is best controlled during cooler seasons, recommended application times are fall and spring. Since you’re selling hay that rules out using Highnoon herbicide. You will need a persistent spray program for a couple of years, twice yearly. It is also very likely you will never eliminate plantain, just supress it. 2,4-D ester formulations with a tank mix of dicamba twice a year for two years tamed my plantain problems but it is still present. The rate of 2,4-D ester recommended is very high, 3-4 pints/A. Ester formulations are more effective for weed control but also have a greater risk of volatility drift which makes it more important to apply when temperatures are low which matches spring and fall applications. The addition of Dicamba will also be important. Persistence is key, you won’t kill it with one application. If plantain has been allowed to seed you’ll have a longer term spray program since the seeds are persistent for your lifetime. Having a healthy stand of grass is also very important, competition with weeds is as or more important than a spray program. Grass pastures do need renovation periodically both from a yield and weed control point of view.

 

[Phaseolus]

it will absolutely kill everything...

Which makes it a non-use imperative in a grass hay field. Don’t do it.

 

[Blacktailbc]

I don’t know about that big of a field, but on my lawn Dimension pre-emergent herbicide works well.

You put it down in early spring before the broadleaf weeds sprout. Doesn’t kill the lawn, just prevents weeds from coming up.

Dimension® specialty herbicide — Turf & Ornamental

From the first application to the last, see why Dimension specialty herbicide is the only choice for preemergence and early postemergence crabgrass control.

www.corteva.us

 

[beaglegun]

Add methylated seed oil and ammonium sulfate to 2,4-d amine. Slick waxy leaf makes it not absorb herbicide

 

[88man]

I don’t know about that big of a field, but on my lawn Dimension pre-emergent herbicide works well.

You put it down in early spring before the broadleaf weeds sprout. Doesn’t kill the lawn, just prevents weeds from coming up.

Dimension® specialty herbicide — Turf & Ornamental

From the first application to the last, see why Dimension specialty herbicide is the only choice for preemergence and early postemergence crabgrass control.

www.corteva.us

Dimension is an annual grass pre emergent product.

• Preemergence: Isoxaben, Mesotrione
• Post Emergence: 2,4-D, Bispyribac Sodium, Chlorsulfuron, Clopyralid, Dicamba, Fluroxypyr, Mecoprop-p, Mesotrione, Sulfentrazone, Triclopyr

The above are labeled in lawns

If you have clover or alfalfa in the pasture these products will kill or hurt all but grass. I know Clopyralid is not labeled for use on hay pastures

 

[Wild Bill]

Buckhorn Plantain is a cool season weed so it is best controlled during cooler seasons, recommended application times are fall and spring. Since you’re selling hay that rules out using Highnoon herbicide. You will need a persistent spray program for a couple of years, twice yearly. It is also very likely you will never eliminate plantain, just supress it. 2,4-D ester formulations with a tank mix of dicamba twice a year for two years tamed my plantain problems but it is still present. The rate of 2,4-D ester recommended is very high, 3-4 pints/A. Ester formulations are more effective for weed control but also have a greater risk of volatility drift which makes it more important to apply when temperatures are low which matches spring and fall applications. The addition of Dicamba will also be important. Persistence is key, you won’t kill it with one application. If plantain has been allowed to seed you’ll have a longer term spray program since the seeds are persistent for your lifetime. Having a healthy stand of grass is also very important, competition with weeds is as or more important than a spray program. Grass pastures do need renovation periodically both from a yield and weed control point of view.