Self Guided Public Land B & C Records

[elkhuntinfool78]

Hello,

Just curious how many here would be curious what the percentage of self guided hunters taking an animal on public land are in the Boone and Crockett records books?

And if there were a specific category in the Boone and Crockett records, would more average guys become members of the B&C club?

I know that B&C has this information for every entry yet it is not published in the records books which I find unfortunate.

Let me first say that I have nothing against a guided hunt, if I had more money there's no doubt I'd be going on a few. But that said I do feel that an animal that is taken without a guide and on public land carries more weight than one that is guided on some of the most prestigious private land the country has to offer.

One could also say animals taken on an otc tag would carry more weight than those harvested on a limited entry tag. I don't believe B&C records that info though.

 

[shrapnel]

I haven’t gotten that many record book heads, but 2 of the 4 were by drawing, both Moose and Sheep and non guided on public land. The third and 4th were also public land, the mule deer was Pope and Young…

 

[Flatbrimmer]

pretty sure there is a layer for it on your OnX map

 

[cgasner1]

Hello,

Just curious how many here would be curious what the percentage of self guided hunters taking an animal on public land are in the Boone and Crockett records books?

And if there were a specific category in the Boone and Crockett records, would more average guys become members of the B&C club?

I know that B&C has this information for every entry yet it is not published in the records books which I find unfortunate.

Let me first say that I have nothing against a guided hunt, if I had more money there's no doubt I'd be going on a few. But that said I do feel that an animal that is taken without a guide and on public land carries more weight than one that is guided on some of the most prestigious private land the country has to offer.

One could also say animals taken on an otc tag would carry more weight than those harvested on a limited entry tag. I don't believe B&C records that info though.

All time b&c numbers are a impressive animal the other numbers are a money grab

 

[elkhuntinfool78]

Some exceptional animals sir!

That said I was more asking if a differentiation between guided and self guided, public vs private would be of interest to the average guy or if most do not care to know those details

 

[tkhuntsman]

Hello,

Just curious how many here would be curious what the percentage of self guided hunters taking an animal on public land are in the Boone and Crockett records books?

And if there were a specific category in the Boone and Crockett records, would more average guys become members of the B&C club?

I know that B&C has this information for every entry yet it is not published in the records books which I find unfortunate.

Let me first say that I have nothing against a guided hunt, if I had more money there's no doubt I'd be going on a few. But that said I do feel that an animal that is taken without a guide and on public land carries more weight than one that is guided on some of the most prestigious private land the country has to offer.

One could also say animals taken on an otc tag would carry more weight than those harvested on a limited entry tag. I don't believe B&C records that info though.

I've managed 1 in 30 years of diy public land hunting a mule deer in CO in 2011 no story or info posted online. I've got an antelope and an elk that would qualify but I'm just not interested in having them entered. Those are my hunts and memories, I've seen to much garbage and tarnish come from just getting stuff recognized.

 

[jt13]

Nah... B&C records are supposed to be for recognizing and documenting the animal. I dont care to differentiate any more than they already do, which is establishing whether it was fair chase hunter harvest VS picked up/found.

 

[The Hedgehog]

Nah... B&C records are supposed to be for recognizing and documenting the animal. I dont care to differentiate any more than they already do, which is establishing whether it was fair chase hunter harvest VS picked up/found.

It would be a more interesting data point than what caliber of rifle used - which they already do.

 

[The Hedgehog]

All time b&c numbers are a impressive animal the other numbers are a money grab

Awards book type animals in a state that has never had a single animal of that size ever recorded for that county should be recognized. Critters that officially make B&C awards are absolutely great. $40 is not something I’d think of as a “money grab” unless you’re a fry boy at McDonald’s.

Pope-Young a different story. Anything without milk on its lips qualifies.

 

[cgasner1]

Awards book type animals in a state that has never had a single animal of that size ever recorded for that county should be recognized. Critters that officially make B&C awards are absolutely great. $40 is not something I’d think of as a “money grab” unless you’re a fry boy at McDonald’s.

Pope-Young a different story. Anything without milk on its lips qualifies.

That’s fair and and more the numbers I was thinking about

 

[6mm Remington]

If the animal was taken in Fair Chase as they define it, I think that is what is important. There are a lot of animals that have been taken over the years that have never been entered and will probably never be entered. If I am ever fortunate enough to take a record class animal I think for me personally I would have it entered into B&C or Pope & Young. It would be my way of honoring the animal to me.

I am a Boone & Crockett member and have been for years. They are more than just a record keeping organization and do more than just that. The record keeping is more than just that and what it can reveal is declines in larger more mature animals, and that there might be a problem. Habitat loss, excessive predator loss, over harvesting, and more. If you look deeper into Boone & Crockett they do more than just this. They are involved in studies of different North American animals and much more also. I feel that it's a worthwhile orginazation to be a part of and it is the first Conservation Group formed in 1887 by Teddy Roosevelt, George Grinnell and others who were concerned about the declining populations of wildlife. More of us should become involved.

 

[rogerthat]

I’ve never had a single critter officially scored. Don’t think I will. Besides a cow elk I don’t think I have shot an animal with my bow that wouldn’t make p&y. Not sure the point of that. I think I have one critter that would make b&c but we will never know. It is fun to compare things to the record. I would like the private and public diy data points. I call all private land critters Cheeto eaters

 

[wytex]

I entered my bighorn sheep and yes I think having info about public land and DIY is a great idea. I put it in the book to show that yes B&C animals can be taken in areas not really known for records and for the public land DIY folks.

 

[seeth07]

Pope-Young a different story. Anything without milk on its lips qualifies.

Absolutely agree with this and there is no doubt that the P&Y is more about the money grab. Just because its harder to potentially harvest an animal with archery equipment doesn't have any impact on what defines a "quality animal".

B&C records were originally created as a method to document counties in the nation where the quality of the habitat along with other factors were satisfactory to be able to produce healthy and normal growth animals. Antlers were just an easy way to properly quantify the health of an animal.

 

[psinclair]

It wouldn't matter to me.. it's more about the animal than who, how, where...

There are plenty of B&C big game animals that have been taken and never entered. I have several myself.

 

[Straight Arrow]

It wouldn't matter to me.. it's more about the animal than who, how, where...

There are plenty of B&C big game animals that have been taken and never entered. I have several myself.

I have none that would be recorded in the trophy books, but my Barn & Cabin mounts are all trophys to me!