Irrelevant. Elk behind my house aren’t migrating to Louisiana.Do you feel the same about migratory ducks?
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Irrelevant. Elk behind my house aren’t migrating to Louisiana.Do you feel the same about migratory ducks?
You missed my point entirely.Irrelevant. Elk behind my house aren’t migrating to Louisiana.
No I didn’t.You missed my point entirely.
Mine was about 18 years ago into Billings had the directions printed off of Mapquest. Man life was simpler thenHa...remembering rolling in to Bozeman 38 years ago with a few hundred bucks and a road map.
Do you know what fluctuate means? Fluctuate isn't a constant downward trend. Elk populations are rising, if anything, the number of active hunters should be going up if they're not decreasing.Look at your own statistics...the number of licenses and active hunters is going to fluctuate for a variety of reasons.
They're included. Read the title of the table buzz. Just keep speculating.You didn't even know that the LQ tags and cow/calf tags were part of the statewide totals.
Elk populations are not rising...check the data.Do you know what fluctuate means? Fluctuate isn't a constant downward trend. Elk populations are rising, if anything, the number of active hunters should be going up if they're not decreasing.
They're included. Read the title of the table buzz. Just keep speculating.
Number of Active Hunters is pretty cut and dry. There's no reading between the lines necessary. Guys buying more than 1 tag are why the licenses sold number is higher than the total active hunter numbers.
This is the kind thinking that has landed many of my clients in jail for a long, long time.I'd argue that most of my decisions in life are based on my own morality and outlook on how I think life should work as opposed to how it actually works.
https://wyofile.com/decade-of-the-elk-for-hunters-as-herds-top-goals-by-32/Elk populations are not rising...check the data.
Also, you didn't know it was total elk tags, if you did, you wouldn't have mentioned Resident general tags.
Is it illegal to ask people for money?but you are just advocating for making decisions based on your opinions and feelings.
This^^^^.This all come down to the old line...the grass is always greener...
Or having your cake and eating it too.
It is a FACT that thousands , no more than that, of residents in the various western states made a conscious decision to move to a state that had good public land big game hunting. When they made that choice, there were minuses that had to be accepted in the deal. The big one is that often your income potential is going to be diminished compared to states with more robust economies. There are others, less medical care, school funding, harsh climate, yada yada. All of those are accepted in order to have annual opportunity to big game hunt.
We can't have our cake and eat it too, and neither can anyone else. If you want more big game hunting opportunity move to a state and take the good with the bad. You will be invested in that state's hunting future instead of coming for a short hunting vacation.
You know I respect you, this is not meant to sound harsh: What is it you would want specifically? To blow the whole thing up and start from scratch? There is no way that outcome is going to be better for habitat, wildlife, and certainly hunters at large in any modern political paradigm.Hell, from an ideological perspective it's hard to justify our current public land distribution and management scheme.
"All men are created equal"
Except some live in a state without any appreciable public land, yet are still taxed to fund "public" land thousands of miles away, land that other, more privileged people (and by privileged I mean they just got lucky to be born with a particular zipcode), get to utilize and enjoy on a daily basis.
Didn't "we the people" decide that the public trust resources of clean air, clean water, and wildlife (oh shit really? I had no idea that state regulated hunting lead the grizzly bear and the wolf onto the endangered species list) were so goddamn important as to merit a not haphazard state based management and decided to place federal side boards governing their management?
But honestly it really doesn't matter, because I'm irrelevant.
Is it illegal to ask people for money?
Do you do it?
Why not?
You can't say you don't need to, you've already said you work and your not a millionaire yet, so you clearly need money, why don't you just ask people for it?
Do you get it now? Or were you just being difficult?
Hooked on phonics...you need to look into it. Statewide populations determine permit numbers. Numbers are down about 7100 elk, and I can tell you after the 2022/23 winter, they're down even more.https://wyofile.com/decade-of-the-elk-for-hunters-as-herds-top-goals-by-32/
Same time frame as the previous data I shared...
You're chirping that NR's should be getting more tags while elk populations are declining here. Further, if the booming herds are going to be controlled its not via bull permits, its cows that need to be shot, not bulls.Here is the elk population is the top 15 states from 2011 to 2024 summarized in a nice little chart. I wish I had a link to some overall tags issued for elk in various states from this same time period. I don't have any data that goes back to 2011 but perhaps I could dig it out or request it from state agencies. I would just be curious if the tag numbers have stayed roughly the same, increased or decreased over this same time period and compare it to the elk population estimate.
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Hell, from an ideological perspective it's hard to justify our current public land distribution and management scheme.
"All men are created equal"
Except some live in a state without any appreciable public land, yet are still taxed to fund "public" land thousands of miles away, land that other, more privileged people (and by privileged I mean they just got lucky to be born with a particular zipcode), get to utilize and enjoy on a daily basis.
Didn't "we the people" decide that the public trust resources of clean air, clean water, and wildlife (oh shit really? I had no idea that state regulated hunting lead the grizzly bear and the wolf onto the endangered species list) were so goddamn important as to merit a not haphazard state based management and decided to place federal side boards governing their management?
But honestly it really doesn't matter, because I'm irrelevant.
Is it illegal to ask people for money?
Do you do it?
Why not?
You can't say you don't need to, you've already said you work and your not a millionaire yet, so you clearly need money, why don't you just ask people for it?
Do you get it now? Or were you just being difficult?
I'd buy your NR special fee tag out from under you in 2 seconds if I could...and wouldn't feel one bit bad about it.Boy all these whiny residents sure gets old. Wawawa I can’t make any money here! You have to subsidize my hunting or else !
I'd buy your NR special fee tag out from under you in 2 seconds if I could...and wouldn't feel one bit bad about it.
Hmmmm...there's an idea allow Residents to apply for both NR and R tags. Wouldn't matter who's $1950 paid for a NR elk tag.