Rancher's cattle being removed from forest

[Michaelr]

Ten
back to the story at hand.
If those folks are grazing without a lease they should be arrested. and all there cattle on PUBLIC ground should be fair game.
maybe a limited draw, use the proceeds to start fixing the damage???
then they should be held accountable for the rest of the cost of restoring the land..

 

[Michaelr]

nemont
I totally agree.
Those ranchers that are goog stewards, I have no BEEF

with.
Hell my family owns a ranch

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ 01-31-2004 06:48: Message edited by: michaelr ]</font>

 

[Ten Bears]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Ten
back to the story at hand.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

From 1/30/2004 Ten posted: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> If you go back to the beginning, and read slowly this was all started because somebody is grazing cows on public land without permit. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

 

[Ithaca 37]

mike,"This is one issue I have done an about face and changed my views on.
All the targee national forest around spencer idaho is a great case in point.
It looked like shit last fall due to over grazing..."

What's the solution? Jon Marvel lawsuits? Being nice about overgrazing and trying to educate those ranchers hasn't made even a tiny bit of difference. You think those ranchers overgrazing the Targee don't know exactly what they're doing?

 

[Nemont]

How about enforce the rules as they are currently written?
Nemont

 

[Ithaca 37]

In Idaho the Cattlemen's Association uses all their political pull to keep the FS and BLM from hiring more enforcement officers. Do you have any idea how many enforcement personnel the FS and BLM have in Montana? I bet less than ten, total.

 

[Ten Bears]

I doubt it would be hard for the Targee district Ranger to enforce the grazing violations if it's that bad.

 

[1_pointer]

Just to clarify, but LEOs (at least in the SLFO) are not responsible for dealing with grazing violoations. That is up the the range management specialist for that allotment. The BLM Salt Lake office has 4 (now only two, but two will be hired shortly) RMSs for 3.2 million acres.

 

[Ten Bears]

I have been under the impression that LEO's have that "authority", but others have that responsibility also.

 

[1_pointer]

Not so in our office, which is all the experience I have.

 

[Ten Bears]

Interesting to know.