Well I agree with you in the allowing non-resident hunters to come hunt in Montana is generous, your statement about not being forced to do anything is truly disingenuous in that it completely ignores how messed up Montana’s point system is.
Planning for an Eastern Montana mule deer hunt
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Well, I actually was not referring to the point system at all. I was referring to the fact Montanans as a whole can’t quite figure out how to allocate tags across individual hunt districts and actually allow an agency to truly distribute hunters and restrict harvest within certain areas that may need it.
Absolutely you can make a choice. You’re still completely ignoring the fact that once a person starts buying points, they have absolutely no option but to keep buying points and take the tag and shoot the first dink they see because they just sunk over thousand dollars into a deer hunt. They’re only other option is to just except the fact they already pissed money away and walk away from it. Neither choice is good, and I don’t blame anyone for taking a tag and shooting the first deer they see.
Montanans as a whole have continued to ask for opportunity for years. I’ve sat through enough commission meeting to see it.
No shit Sherlock. I already acknowledged that, and just admit to the fact that the whole point system is completely screwed up and doesn’t allow nonresident any flexibility in what they do, therefore potentially compelling them to make poor choices they consider the lesser of the lesser of the evils.
You obviously like to argue. Go do it with yourself
For $800, I will continue to purchase that "generosity". Lighten up guys, geez. You Montanans are angrier than anybody I've ever met when it comes to trying to manage your herds and reel in your bureaucratic mess that you call an FWP. For $800, I'll continue to be that scapegoat on why your herds are so f'd up.
Seriously, I very much enjoy hunting in Montana, I wish I had the opportunity you guys do to call it home because it is an amazing state, and believe me, a lot of us NR are as mad as you guys when we see how things are managed. Its pretty hard to walk away from $150 invested in preference points when I am told that I have to use them or I lose all of my investment. Not to mention during this year of all years when drought and EHD is likely to get even worse. I would gladly keep my points and wait a few more years.
I think we are all so angry is because we know that the only way anything ever changes is if residents and non residents quit filling their pickup boxes full of mule deer does and quit being happy to shoot a fork horn. Only way anything ever happens if non residents who pay the most quit buying the shitty tag. Left over licenses tell FWP that people are tired of the bullshit. Sold out tags with people waiting in line for whatever gets turned back in tells FWP things are great
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…..soooo sounds like the storm next week will give me a 190”+ buck. Awesome.
I think your 0 is stuck on your key board
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You’re right, I meant 1,900” buck
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That doesn't work, ask me how I know.
I think the reason I get agitated is many of us have seen what it used to be like. The potential is there, and seeing how far it has fallen is tough to stomach. Was out for a walk today picking up some chalky white muley horns thinking what has changed. Growing up I saw hardly any hunters maybe a few locals on the weekend or a stray group of Washington or Minnesotans. Now it is a constant flow of hunters even during the week for the entire season. Supposedly hunter numbers and out of state tags hasn’t increased, so I question where the increase has came from. Change for the better would be easy but would limit opportunity to hunt which in my opinion is fine in many others it isn’t.
Montana FWP game managers. “Hold my beer and watch this”
When I was about 17 I talked to an older guy from Glendive about deer hunting. He told me that I was wasting my time hunting deer in SW Mt because the deer hunting was far better in eastern Mt. I thought he was full of shit. We used to see over 100 deer in a day hunting the mountains of SW Mt. I couldn't imagine it being better. This was about 1980.
The last 20 years we are doing good to see 10 deer in a day in the same areas with 50 years of experience. Some days zero. Anyone who chooses to hunt deer in SW Mt. over eastern Mt. is a dreamer and this includes resident and nonresident. Therein lies your problem. I don't see it getting better anytime soon.
The last 20 years we are doing good to see 10 deer in a day in the same areas with 50 years of experience. Some days zero. Anyone who chooses to hunt deer in SW Mt. over eastern Mt. is a dreamer and this includes resident and nonresident. Therein lies your problem. I don't see it getting better anytime soon.
