North Yellowstone Flooding

[YoungGun]

Went up the Stillwater yesterday to check on my parents place- the road near the Rockin' J washed out after I'd gone across. The bridge out of Absarokee along the Stillwater was closed, Roscoe was washed out. Johnson Bridge was hanging in there, but the Jack Stone Creek road / N. Stillwater road was water covered and didn't look like it would hold up for very long. The only access in/out is through Reed Point and Jack Stone Creek Road.

The Stillwater peaked at 23900 CFS in Absarokee yesterday. The previous alltime high I can find on USGS is 10900 CFS.

 

[YoungGun]

 

[BirdManMike]

Went up the Stillwater yesterday to check on my parents place- the road near the Rockin' J washed out after I'd gone across. The bridge out of Absarokee along the Stillwater was closed, Roscoe was washed out. Johnson Bridge was hanging in there, but the Jack Stone Creek road / N. Stillwater road was water covered and didn't look like it would hold up for very long. The only access in/out is through Reed Point and Jack Stone Creek Road.

The Stillwater peaked at 23900 CFS in Absarokee yesterday. The previous alltime high I can find on USGS is 10900 CFS.

Good grief.

 

[YoungGun]

^ Not my image- my video of the road evaporating won't load, nor will the video of the river running near Johnson Bridge.

 

[shrapnel]

No, primarily attention whores who have their friends video them doing this stuff to post on social media. Or even better strangers video them and post pics to their social media. Half of people think it's cool. Other have think it's dumb. But they all are giving these guys the attention that they crave and the followers for social media.

Every catastrophe is a social media opportunity.

Extreme sports attract a small crowd of self centered thrill seekers. It is all fun until you are dead. Then everyone says "that's how he would have wanted to go."

Meanwhile, they leave a family and friends. It isn't much different than involuntary suicide...

Date: October 24, 2006


An experienced rock climber fell to his death Monday, October 23, 2006, while climbing near Bridalveil Fall in Yosemite Valley.

Todd Skinner from Lander, Wyoming, was climbing a route on the Leaning Tower when he fell approximately 500 feet to his death. Skinner's climbing partner reported the fall at around 4 pm. Park rangers responded, and Skinner was pronounced dead at the scene.

Todd Skinner is survived by his wife and three children.

The exact cause of death is under investigation.

 

[BirdManMike]

Apparently there is a road open to Gardiner.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1536779836189839360

1 lane on East River and Yankee Jim. Good news.

 

[4ohSick]

I get what you’re saying but many people would say the same about us hunters. Suppose you are in the backcountry and get mauled by a grizz or break your leg or back. You knew what the risks were….just let the chips fall?

I think the main difference is the context of what else is happening. It's more like going hunting in the backcountry in the center of a historic wildfire and breaking your leg.

 

[Bullbrl]

Extreme sports attract a small crowd of self centered thrill seekers. It is all fun until you are dead. Then everyone says "that's how he would have wanted to go."

Meanwhile, they leave a family and friends. It isn't much different than involuntary suicide...

Date: October 24, 2006


An experienced rock climber fell to his death Monday, October 23, 2006, while climbing near Bridalveil Fall in Yosemite Valley.

Todd Skinner from Lander, Wyoming, was climbing a route on the Leaning Tower when he fell approximately 500 feet to his death. Skinner's climbing partner reported the fall at around 4 pm. Park rangers responded, and Skinner was pronounced dead at the scene.

Todd Skinner is survived by his wife and three children.

The exact cause of death is under investigation.

What type of climbing? Big wall, free climbing, sport?

The chances of dying from climbing is something like 1 in 1500, yet people climb in their cars everyday not thinking it’s an extreme sport. Your lifetime odds of dying in a car wreck are like 1 in 110.

 

[YoungGun]

West Rosebud is spiking- I heard they were releasing water at Mystic Lake to save the dam.

 

[4ohSick]

E bike

 

[Bullbrl]

I think the main difference is the context of what else is happening. It's more like going hunting in the backcountry in the center of a historic wildfire and breaking your leg.

Doesn’t matter, hunting is a “hobby”, there can always be someone more deserving of assistance in a critical situation.

Example, hunter needs rescue/life flight out of an area but yet there was just a 3 car accident with major trauma but they can’t get there because they are on scene for a hunter.

I’m not arguing, just saying the examples can run on forever.

 

[rogerthat]

Doesn’t matter, hunting is a “hobby”, there can always be someone more deserving of assistance in a critical situation.

Example, hunter needs rescue/life flight out of an area but yet there was just a 3 car accident with major trauma but they can’t get there because they are on scene for a hunter.

I’m not arguing, just saying the examples can run on forever.

Stupidity vs thrill seek - Seems like society has to draw the line somewhere right? Where is that line than?

 

[shrapnel]

What type of climbing? Big wall, free climbing, sport?

The chances of dying from climbing is something like 1 in 1500, yet people climb in their cars everyday not thinking it’s an extreme sport. Your lifetime odds of dying in a car wreck are like 1 in 110.

There is a bunch of people that have their lives turned upside down and the people running the river do create another possibility of search and rescue to help them in case of catastrophe.

Your numbers are not real, and you didn't read the report. The guy fell off a peak in Yosemite and died leaving his family without a father or husband. That is a much higher probability of death than driving a car. You can validate the stupidity of the kayakers, but it doesn't make it any less of a life threat...

 

[JLS]

Boulder River south of Big Timber.

 

[JLS]

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Not the hot tub !

https://v16m-default.tiktokcdn-us.com/26a92ced05bbacc4718380e107e92ee0/62a95546/video/tos/useast5/tos-useast5-pve-0068-tx/39455feb919c4cbd8d1455d728fef9be/?a=1988&ch=0&cr=0&dr=0&lr=tiktok_m&cd=0%7C0%7C1%7C0&cv=1&br=6560&bt=3280&cs=0&ds=3&ft=eXWR6H-qMyq8ZUghFwe2NKQ7fl7Gb&mime_type=video_mp4&qs=0&rc=ZmloZDY8OGc3aThpPDxmM0BpMzxsNTk6ZmlvZDMzZzczNEBiNjJfLzBhNi0xLzVhLTM0YSNtby1lcjQwX2dgLS1kMS9zcw%3D%3D&l=202206142142350101130060891200E3E3

 

[wyoelkfan15]

There is a bunch of people that have their lives turned upside down and the people running the river do create another possibility of search and rescue to help them in case of catastrophe.

Your numbers are not real, and you didn't read the report. The guy fell off a peak in Yosemite and died leaving his family without a father or husband. That is a much higher probability of death than driving a car. You can validate the stupidity of the kayakers, but it doesn't make it any less of a life threat...

Not to completely derail this thread, but I would argue people of that lifestyle are admirable. I can agree with your sentiment that they are reckless and irresponsible to a degree. But they also have a lifestyle that requires more courage, drive for adventure and dedication than most folks possess. Marc Leclerc's story as shown in the Alpinist on Netflix is a perfect example. Is it sad and tragic that they leave family and friends behind, certainly. But they lived a more full life than 99% of people in our materialistic obsessed society. Climbing back down my soap box...

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

I never did it for a thrill, I never did drugs either. I did it for a paycheck and to see the country.

Better hang up the bow and rifle next to the Jackson, bike, and oxygen tank.

 

[rogerthat]

Not to completely derail this thread, but I would argue people of that lifestyle are admirable. I can agree with your sentiment that they are reckless and irresponsible to a degree. But they also have a lifestyle that requires more courage, drive for adventure and dedication than most folks possess. Marc Leclerc's story as shown in the Alpinist on Netflix is a perfect example. Is it sad and tragic that they leave family and friends behind, certainly. But they lived a more full life than 99% of people in our materialistic obsessed society. Climbing back down my soap box...

That’s a very romantic way to look at…or possibly they don’t have properly functioning glands/brains so they don’t feel fear? We will probably never know. I still strongly believe there is a point where you have made a decision and society can’t be asked to save you. If that’s a simple back country hunt than I would be fine with that. To me thats way less risk than the dudes paddling or whatever they call it. Anyway carry on.

 

[Bullbrl]

There is a bunch of people that have their lives turned upside down and the people running the river do create another possibility of search and rescue to help them in case of catastrophe.

Your numbers are not real, and you didn't read the report. The guy fell off a peak in Yosemite and died leaving his family without a father or husband. That is a much higher probability of death than driving a car. You can validate the stupidity of the kayakers, but it doesn't make it any less of a life threat...

My numbers aren’t real? Google is your friend, look them up yourself.

Like I said in my example, car crash of a family they have their lives “turned upside down”, yet a hunter/hiker in the backcountry taking up resources. We can take this anyway you want it doesn’t change the fact that shit happens and we need to deal with it the best way we can.