Non-resident outfitter license (MT) Bill is up for hearing 2/2/2021 (SB 143)

[winmag]

Senate session going on now.

Amendment proposed to get rid of 39% welfare guaranteed pool. And move draw date up to Jan 15th, so outfitters can have more time to plan.

Paraphrasing...Ellsworth specifically says Montana's problem is DIY hunters. WOW

 

[winmag]

AMENDMENT PASSED

 

[Brad W]

Wow. This is crazy.

 

[winmag]

Every senator supporting the bill noted and bitched about the thousands of emails and calls they received, specifically from out of state. I say good job everyone.

 

[JLS]

Ellsworth specifically says Montana's problem is DIY hunters a fugged up Elk Management plan and a meddling legislature that won’t help solve the problem.

That’s mo’ betta.

 

[idahohuntr]

Jacobsen's amendment passed - so there will be no outfitter guarantee? Just an early draw at higher price...maybe a bit like WY 'Special' Tags?

 

[Ben Sellers]

Montana Senators to the DYI hunter, "You don't spend enough to matter, hunting here should be a rich man's sport only."

Edited: Wait a minute, what just happened to the bill? The funding streams changed and now its a higher priced early draw?

 

[VikingsGuy]

They’re doing what republicans always do- ramming through all of their wildest dreams the instant they have power.

Have you watch DC during the last 4 or 5 elections cycles? Both parties run the same playbook. I don't like it either, but it is laughable to say only one side does it.

 

[winmag]

Ellsworth vowed to re-amend the bill when it goes to the house.

Definitely a win for today though.

 

[Dakotakid]

Is amended SB 143 palatable?

 

[idahohuntr]

No expert on it but I would think with guaranteed tags and the rate at which western hunting is growing, it would affect any new agreements. Outfitter comes in with their "welfare" money and offer $17k be foolish to sign for any BLM agreement.

Thats my concern...capping the gov to 15k opens the door to outfitters knowing that's the max the state can bid, no matter how big or great the property is for DIY resident and non-resident hunters.

 

[Schism]

Anyone know if the amendment was intended to be a poison pill by hoping the sponsor would pull it or ask that it be voted down?

 

[JLS]

Thats my concern...capping the gov to 15k opens the door to outfitters knowing that's the max the state can bid, no matter how big or great the property is for DIY resident and non-resident hunters.

Pretty much.

 

[Big Fin]

Senators Jacobson and Wellborn show it means to be a leader.

 

[Corn king 60]

Well that was shameful
I don’t think they fully understood what they just passed

 

[idahohuntr]

Is amended SB 143 palatable?

I think it is better than just a straight loss as would have surely happened if Jacobsen hadn't sought the amendment.

 

[winmag]

Basically all it does now is create an earlier draw for those that want to pay more for the tags. I'm fine with that.

 

[ChaosOneZero]

Every senator supporting the bill noted and bitched about the thousands of emails and calls they received, specifically from out of state. I say good job everyone.

Wait until those same folks, resident and NR alike, start sending their money to fund primary or general election challenges or ballot initiatives.

 

[Falcon75]

27 to 23. Passed second reading. I listened in interesting to hear the same garbage how this helps. Really liked fence analogy with limit on how much fence can be built. Wear your state shirt with a hunter hat in restraunts, hotels and gas stations. I wish there was a study that wouldn't put non residents in outfitter pool to see the ripple effect nr diy hunters have on the economy.

 

[Hunting Wife]

I don’t fully understand what they just passed. Missed the amendment. Can someone please summarize what is contained in this version for the slow kids?