Mr. UML
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My old-ass binoculars are Bushnells. But I did check out their latest scopes and the reticles are not my cup of tea.
New Scope | 300 yards in low-light
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My old-ass binoculars are Bushnells. But I did check out their latest scopes and the reticles are not my cup of tea.
So money IS the difference. Newer, more expensive does not always equal "better". Maybe you might have to accept the fact that there are limits to how much you can improve and you may have found yours. It's a deep rabbit hole to chase finding 2 more minutes of light.
Have you ever thought about using this time, energy and money in building ANOTHER BLIND? You know, for different wind directions, deer travel route locations, etc.? You are limiting your shots by the amount of light at a long distance. Seems like the easiest way to fix that would be to reduce that distance. Just sayin'.
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I'm cool chasing that rabbit hole. I'm going to do it one way or another - so folks can either help me or just talk trash. At the end of the day, I'm looking to see what technology is available to help me assuredly take ethical shots at longer distances.
Not building another blind when the one I have is just fine. I just need to make a bit more improvement on my optics and then I'll be good. The max shot I can take in this field is about 325 anyways.
Hem
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The guys in Texas use a corn feeder to get them in close.
Fixed it for you. Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to do it.
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I’m interested to see someone spend 10k on a muzzloader setup to shoot deer at 300 yards.
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@Hem - Cornfeeders in any private or public area that is hunted are illegal in Michigan. In general, baiting is illegal in Michigan, period.
@Dave N - The field runs approximately 1000~ yards. If I wanted to go apeshit with this gun, I could upgrade the crap out of it to take it to 500+ yards like others have on the page I sent you. Realistically though, I rarely see deer beyond 325 yards in the area I tend to hunt over and if I did, there's too many elevation changes for me to take into account and I just wouldn't.
@F250 - Sorry to disappoint you, but my posts are genuine. Again, people are serious about their Muzzleloading in Michigan because it's the most wicked weapon you can use in the "Limited Firearm Zone" portion of the state. People do spend $$$$$ on them because they've become so advanced that you really can do some amazing things.
@FREAK - Go look at the Magnus MZ8 from Gunwerks which you can get with a Kahles K525i (and many other options not listed as well). You're right away over $10K for that muzzleloader combo.
@Dave N - The field runs approximately 1000~ yards. If I wanted to go apeshit with this gun, I could upgrade the crap out of it to take it to 500+ yards like others have on the page I sent you. Realistically though, I rarely see deer beyond 325 yards in the area I tend to hunt over and if I did, there's too many elevation changes for me to take into account and I just wouldn't.
@F250 - Sorry to disappoint you, but my posts are genuine. Again, people are serious about their Muzzleloading in Michigan because it's the most wicked weapon you can use in the "Limited Firearm Zone" portion of the state. People do spend $$$$$ on them because they've become so advanced that you really can do some amazing things.
@FREAK - Go look at the Magnus MZ8 from Gunwerks which you can get with a Kahles K525i (and many other options not listed as well). You're right away over $10K for that muzzleloader combo.
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I think it's time for aWe tried. He won't listen. Time to finish watching Mountain Men.
You're not saying anything worth listening to. I asked for weigh in on some scopes. Not about how and where I hunt, how good of a shot I am, not about my blind or fields - just regarding which scopes can accomplish my goals.
I narrowed it down to 3 and welcome useful opinions.
Caseknife
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Just get the Trijicon Tenmile 5-50x56, with which ever reticle fits your needs. About the only scope that will fit your wants. Rokslide says that you can drive tent stakes with them, so they should hold up to the recoil of a muzzy, just don't use a lead-sled. I personally like to get a bit closer, never shot anything farther than 240.
The Hedgehog
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Schmidt bender pmii or tangent theta are the best. Forget about the cluttered up reticles and use a straight mil dot. Schmidt’s P3 reticle is perfect if you want to take the time to recognize the simple usefulness around it for hinting. Dump MOS and go 100% metric. Get a Leica rangefinding binocular that has the latest ballistic app. The binoculars will let you see “points” better than any riflescope and instantly give you the come ups for the turret. The best comes with a price. The Schmidt PMii series won’t be topped for light gathering/clarity - even at 30mm tube and 42mm obj. You’ve been led to water.
Bizarre for me to think this belongs on a blackpowder rifle but that is the best there is.
Bizarre for me to think this belongs on a blackpowder rifle but that is the best there is.
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Thanks for the input. As noted earlier, I've not been a fan of S&B or TT's reticles.
Caseknife
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Here you go, good deal. https://www.eurooptic.com/Trijicon-...nge-w-Red-Green-MRAD-Center-Dot-w-Wind-H.aspx
The Hedgehog
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What in your use of all things reticles is wrong with what I pasted above? I’ve made quick hits on targets the size of a basketball at 1000m at 10x with that. It’s pure excellent simplicity. And WTF are you possibly using now that’s in the same universe of perfection as that?
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i just want to see some video of OP on 40x trying to stay on a deer as it walks around at 200 yards. Throw a scope cam on so we can see what you see.
I get the feelin OP is either trolling or has never spent any time behind 25x+ looking at moving animals inside 300 yards. It’s not a “more precise” thing, it’s counter productive. People are telling you that because they know it’s counterproductive.
I get the feelin OP is either trolling or has never spent any time behind 25x+ looking at moving animals inside 300 yards. It’s not a “more precise” thing, it’s counter productive. People are telling you that because they know it’s counterproductive.
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