MT Poll: (R) Gianforte, (D) Busse, or (L) Leib.

[Sytes]

Here's an interesting statistic for Montana:
431,636 absentee / early ballots submitted for a population of 1,133,000.

 

[ismith]

LOL

 

[Forkyfinder]

GG wins by 10%

 

[Sytes]

Another interesting aspect that was touched on earlier in this thread though i didn't realize how significant this lands on the national level.

 

[SwaggyD]

 

[Carnage2011]

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Ya that one was obvious. I knew Busse was getting dog walked the day he became the candidate.

 

[SwaggyD]

Ya that one was obvious. I knew Busse was getting dog walked the day he became the candidate.

No argument. Just thought it was relevant.

 

[Nameless Range]

First time in 128 years that Montana has been pure red in all those positions we voted on last night. I did not think Busse had a chance. I do hope when Knudsen runs for Governor in 4 years, Tester runs against him. We are not making Ds anymore who would appeal to Montanans. Tester had a great run. Personally, I did want 126 to pass, as I thought it was our only hope for moderating politics in this age of the internet.

The whole "Native Montanan" virtue, "Rich Out-of-Stater" vice, is no longer a Montana zeitgeist and I largely expect it to be abandoned moving forward. Montana is increasingly dominated by all those newcomers for better or worse.

Politically, Montanans are increasingly governed by those with a lack of knowledge of rural life, for better or worse.

 

[Southern Elk]

First time in 128 years that Montana has been pure red in all those positions we voted on last night. I did not think Busse had a chance. I do hope when Knudsen runs for Governor in 4 years, Tester runs against him. We are not making Ds anymore who would appeal to Montanans. Tester had a great run. Personally, I did want 126 to pass, as I thought it was our only hope for moderating politics in this age of the internet.

The whole "Native Montanan" virtue, "Rich Out-of-Stater" vice, is no longer a Montana zeitgeist and I largely expect it to be abandoned moving forward. Montana is increasingly dominated by all those newcomers for better or worse.

Politically, Montanans are increasingly governed by those with a lack of knowledge of rural life, for better or worse.

I’m not sure that Tester or any Democrat could win a statewide election in MT. The best chance of beating Knudsen is in the primary. The Democratic Party has a problem appealing to rural voters, not just in MT, but nation wide.

 

[Nameless Range]

I’m not sure that Tester or any Democrat could win a statewide election in MT. The best chance of beating Knudsen is in the primary. The Democratic Party has a problem appealing to rural voters, not just in MT, but nation wide.

I agree, but I have little faith in Montana's republicans to pick the most sane option in the primaries. In recent history, they often don't. I think he would have a real uphill climb with a body not built for mountaineering, but more of a chance than any other I can conceive.

 

[seeth07]

The Democratic Party has a problem appealing to rural voters, not just in MT, but nation wide.

As does the other side appealing to urban voters. It is crazy to think about how politically divided urban and rural communities are.

 

[cgasner1]

As does the other side appealing to urban voters. It is crazy to think about how politically divided urban and rural communities are.

I know some pretty rural dems that are multi generational railroaders and one told me that he doesn’t recognize his party anymore. Maybe that’s part of the issue both parties have shifted so far to the extreme.

 

[WanderWoman]

I know some pretty rural dems that are multi generational railroaders and one told me that he doesn’t recognize his party anymore. Maybe that’s part of the issue both parties have shifted so far to the extreme.

All the more reason CI 126 should have passed, IMO.

 

[Sytes]

I know some pretty rural dems that are multi generational railroaders and one told me that he doesn’t recognize his party anymore. Maybe that’s part of the issue both parties have shifted so far to the extreme.

This.

Democrats caused this. Time they look in the mirror vs pretending it's everyone else's fault.

An interesting comparison:

Quist vs Gianforte: 6% win.


Busse vs Gianforte: 22% win.



Says volumes when Quist held 16% more voting power than Busse.

Democrats nationally need to revamp their platform and present options viable to vote.

I doubt a single person here thought Busse had a chance. Again, look in the mirror. It's time for a change from the inside.

 

[rogerthat]

This.

Democrats caused this. Time they look in the mirror vs pretending it's everyone else's fault.

An interesting comparison:

Quist vs Gianforte: 6% win.
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Busse vs Gianforte: 22% win.

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Says volumes when Quist held 16% more voting power than Busse.

Democrats nationally need to revamp their platform and present options viable to vote.

I doubt a single person here thought Busse had a chance. Again, look in the mirror. It's time for a change from the inside.

I bet Busse can’t sing a lick either. No comparison to canary Quist

 

[BRI]

I know some pretty rural dems that are multi generational railroaders and one told me that he doesn’t recognize his party anymore. Maybe that’s part of the issue both parties have shifted so far to the extreme.

This sums up pretty much how I feel. Mostly voted conservative for the last 35 years but now don't associate with either party. I feel like the general, rational, reasonable person is held hostage by the fringes.

 

[Drake4]

As someone who has voted D several times in the past for MT (Sweitzer, Bullock, Tester), it's pretty embarrassing what the party has become here. Quist and Busse, Tranel...you gotta be f'n kidding me. They'd have been better off to let GG run unopposed and not waste everyone's money. It's actually really hard to imagine how anyone thought they'd have a chance in hell to win.

 

[88man]

Busse works for the largest anti gun lobby and runs for governor of Montana. Just doesn't seem like it would fly or could fly. Hum maybe it would fly in California, Oregon, Washington, Vermont, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts & Connecticut. The big San Francisco money is looking to change Montana.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I know some pretty rural dems that are multi generational railroaders and one told me that he doesn’t recognize his party anymore. Maybe that’s part of the issue both parties have shifted so far to the extreme.

Curious - how do you feel the republican party has become extreme?

Public lands come to the top of my mind.

 

[cgasner1]

Curious - how do you feel the republican party has become extreme?

Public lands come to the top of my mind.

Wouldn’t say extreme it almost seems like both have shifted far left where republicans align more with old school dems.