Very, very few.
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44hunter45
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I was talking with a workmate about this today. This could more than protect the system without reducing anyone's benefits.
This is my thread, but I'm fully aware this is most likely political gamesmanship for the most part. Nothing like saying the other guys are going to take away your nest egg.
No doubt the AARP will start lighting up the congressional phone lines any minute now.
BuzzH
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Remove the upper pay cap, never should have been a limit to start with.
Bigjay73
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At least we're using unbiased sources for our news these days. I'm not a republican, but Jesus was this written by a new age liberal Joey Goebbels? Can't really stomach anything so pro Biden, guy can't even tie his own shoes
SAJ-99
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Bingo! Making SS solvent is pretty easy, but it has to include collecting more in taxes. The Office of the Actuary lists all of the legislative proposals and their impact. Link attached below. Great reading if you have insomnia. Not paying people would work, but the mandatory 20% cut to benefits to match what is collected would double the rate of retirees in poverty. Not a good look for any politician. It will get fixed, but probably at the last minute, like everything else in DC.
Medicare is harder. Basically because everyone thinks their $100k procedure or medicine should be covered and news $100k treatments are created every year. Extending the benefit age is a bet on people dying before they reach it. For the average American, the 10-15% (depending on which study- have seen some as low as 8%) of their total health care expense will be incurred in the last 12 months of life.
Proposals to Change Social Security
Proposals to Change Social Security or Supplemental Security Income
www.ssa.gov
SAJ-99
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Probably because the system won't let them. Would you change your mind, or your guess, if it was easier? Hard to believe these people go to the lengths they do to get to this country but wouldn't fill out paper work.
Nick87
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Only if I had something to hide, definitely not the majority, but in the scheme of things more than a handful.
SAJ-99
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The bad stories are terrible, but it's not like we raise them all pure and innocent in this country.
Escaped Idaho inmate and accomplice captured; suspected of killing two in North Idaho
A white supremacist prison escapee and his accomplice suspected of coordinating a violent ambush outside a Boise hospital may be connected to two killings in North Idaho after police found prison shackles at the scene.
www.spokesman.com
Nick87
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Still no reason to take the bad apples we have enough.The bad stories are terrible, but it's not like we raise them all pure and innocent in this country.
Escaped Idaho inmate and accomplice captured; suspected of killing two in North Idaho
A white supremacist prison escapee and his accomplice suspected of coordinating a violent ambush outside a Boise hospital may be connected to two killings in North Idaho after police found prison shackles at the scene.
my observations of people over lots of decades… once they get on the freebie Government gravy train, they seldom get off.
Spot on. Not only is it harder, but due to US age demographics it is much more important to address asap. The current system is collapsing under its own weight.
SAJ-99
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Sure, but idealistic- Keep the good apples, keep out the bad ones. We can't do that for ourselves. Like it or not, we have to acknowledge the economic benefit we receive from the apples. Modify the system on that premise.
SAJ-99
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They never get off, and vote to make sure they never get off. Everyone may complain, but they all cash the check. Americans love their handouts.
Nick87
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It's really not that hard to fix. But then they're wouldn't be a campaign for either side to run on. I'm all for the apples. After all that's how I got here. But when's the last time you bought apples and didn't throw the rotten ones away.
Southern Elk
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I’m in my early 40s. I’ve always assumed that I would get nothing from Social Security. It’s just another tax, as far as I’m concerned. Our political leaders should have never been able to raid those funds.
Nick87
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Yah 37 I've never considered that I would see any of it.
HuntTalk Freak
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Same. I figure I’ll work until I can’t and die a few years after. Most of that is on me but some is on the system. It is what it is.
geetar
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Same. I'm 33 I don't even think about it much. It's beyond me to change it and I've got a life to live. In the back of my mind though I just know it'll most likely never be seen by me again once it's taken out of my check.
Hem
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Face down with my tool bags on..
Really prefer to go face down in the river, flyrod in hand.
Really prefer to go face down in the river, flyrod in hand.
@BuzzH, this is something we mostly agree on, so not picking to pick. But life expectancy for a male in the US that has reached age 65 is 83 or so. When SS was started, it was probably 10+ years less than that.
I don’t think it is unreasonable to consider moving the SS age back a bit, nor do I think it’s appropriate to position SS as the sole means of retirement for most people. In my opinion, that is not what it is intended for- it is an insurance against poverty amongst the elderly. Exactly what that means is subject to interpretation, I do acknowledge that.
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