Montana Mule Deer Mismanagement

[BuzzH]

Got a FWP call yesterday while at lunch.

I had to laugh since I used an e-tag for my pronghorn b tag.

"Did you hunt antelope this year?" yes
"Did you harvest a pronghorn?" yes
"How many days did you hunt?" one
"Your district was xxx, did you hunt in this district?" yes
"You had an antelope b tag, did you harvest a doe or a buck?" I harvested a doe

"Thank you for your time". OK

I got a call about my deer b tag as well. Seems dumb they didn't ask about my buck tag, but whatever.

 

[SAJ-99]

I got a call about my deer b tag as well. Seems dumb they didn't ask about my buck tag, but whatever.

Either a) Montana Tradition, or b) because then it wouldn't be a truly random sample. A person would fills an A tag is probably more like to fill the B tag as well, and vice versa. Think 80/20 rule. Those would be my guesses.

 

[mtmuley]

I got a call about my deer b tag as well. Seems dumb they didn't ask about my buck tag, but whatever.

What are you doing with a B tag anyway? This reminds me. I have to call FWP back and tell them I didn't see any wolves. mtmuley

 

[perma]

I got a call about my deer b tag as well. Seems dumb they didn't ask about my buck tag, but whatever.

WGF did the same for me this year. Wanted to know about my elk tags and never asked about my deer or pronghorn. I asked to complete the surveys regardless and they said no, I have to be selected…..

 

[BuzzH]

What are you doing with a B tag anyway? This reminds me. I have to call FWP back and tell them I didn't see any wolves. mtmuley

Burning 8 useless points.

Also they said they weren't asking NRs about wolf or grizzly sightings.

Filled it with a rifle that's been in the family for 100+ years.

 

[mtmuley]

Burning 8 useless points.

Also they said they weren't asking NRs about wolf or grizzly sightings.

I chucked a B tag in the trash myself. Joking about the wolf thing. You know the deal. But now I know I am Buzz approved to kill a doe. I have the family weapon. Everything is OK. mtmuley

 

[R.K.]

I chucked a B tag in the trash myself. Joking about the wolf thing. You know the deal. But now I know I am Buzz approved to kill a doe. I have the family weapon. Everything is OK. mtmuley

I may be stupid (or hungover), but isn’t that a whitetail doe?

 

[DFS]

Does anybody know what the quotas were set to in region 4 after they had to go to LE? I checked FWP website and couldn’t find them.

 

[mtmuley]

Does anybody know what the quotas were set to in region 4 after they had to go to LE? I checked FWP website and couldn’t find them.

What year(s)? I have regulations back a ways. mtmuley

 

[DFS]

What year(s)? I have regulations back a ways. mtmuley

Well this is new for this year. I believe the deer went to limited entry. I was just curious how many deer hunters will be displaced out of region 4.

 

[antlerradar]

Well this is new for this year. I believe the deer went to limited entry. I was just curious how many deer hunters will be displaced out of region 4.

Even if they set the quotas high, with the 10% rule, most of the NR will be moving to regions 6 and 7.

 

[DFS]

Even if they set the quotas high, with the 10% rule, most of the NR will be moving to regions 6 and 7.

Quick way for the whole state to spiral into LE.
I know I have shamelessly posted this many times. The snowball is rolling.

 

[antlerradar]

Quick way for the whole state to spiral into LE. View attachment 316521
I know I have shamelessly posted this many times. The snowball is rolling.

Got the numbers for region 4

 

[DFS]

Got the numbers for region 4

Per the harvest stats nobody hunted deer in region 4 in 2022. But deer were harvested. I assume car collisions. Must have been a Covid year.
2021 not a complete clear picture but look at the hunters we have displaced even with high quotas
LE here we come.

 

[mtmiller]

Does anybody know what the quotas were set to in region 4 after they had to go to LE? I checked FWP website and couldn’t find them.

https://fwp.mt.gov/binaries/content/assets/fwp/commission/2023/dec/deer-and-elk/region-4-deer-elk-season-setting-justifications.pdf

 

[DFS]

https://fwp.mt.gov/binaries/content/assets/fwp/commission/2023/dec/deer-and-elk/region-4-deer-elk-season-setting-justifications.pdf

Thank you.

 

[DFS]

2019 region 4 numbers. I won’t speak for region 6 but I can say with 100% confidence region 7 is not prepared to take on those hunters.

 

[Deleted member 48080]

View attachment 316540
2019 region 4 numbers. I won’t speak for region 6 but I can say with 100% confidence region 7 is not prepared to take on those hunters.

Are those numbers for all of region 4? Or for the three units going limited entry?

 

[DFS]

Are those numbers for all of region 4? Or of the three units going limited entry?

All the units

 

[Deleted member 48080]

All the units

Those numbers aren't really relevant are they? Sorry if I'm missing something.