shoots-straight
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Yea, I made double top secrete probation elk working group status. Hang out and give feed back when asked. LOL............
Montana FWP Seeking Applicants For Elk Advisory Group
- Thread starter Nameless Range
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Members are Ian Wargo, Heath Hansen, Brent Race D.V.M., Stephanie Prater, Scott Tinklenberg, Matt Wickens, Race King, Chuck Rein, Druska Kinkie, Staci Ketchum, Scott Van Dyken, and Aaron Iverson.
If you aren't first, you're last.
If you aren't first, you're last.
Nameless Range
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Thanks Miller. I'll withhold judgement, as I don't know these folks really. A few names are familiar from some hunting FB groups, others are associated with the stockgrowers association, which is fine. I hope, as much as anything, they are independent in their decisions and recommendations, from the Director, who has been nothing but a poison pill as it pertains to improving elk management in Montana.
Also, just sent a bit more scratch this way:
Montana Citizens’ Elk Management Coalition
www.montanaelk.org
MThuntr
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I know a few names on that list...some better than others. Looks like some very different people with very different opinions on that list. I'll be curious to see how this plays out.
MTelkHuntress
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I look forward to the first meeting. Like others, I recognize some familiar names on there but I know one person on there that is pretty receptive to different ideas. I remain hopeful and optimistic but we shall see how much compromise happens and which direction.
JEL
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Some initial suggestions from the group. I am in favor of choose your weapon but in all honesty I don’t rifle hunt elk much anymore.
https://helenair.com/news/state-and...cle_8b5b7460-7928-5771-9632-b5b4554b1b1c.html
https://helenair.com/news/state-and...cle_8b5b7460-7928-5771-9632-b5b4554b1b1c.html
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Unfortunately I think the time has come for this change to take place. It’s hard to give up the opportunity we’ve been used to but with the growing population in the state and influx of out of state hunters there must be some relief provided to the resource. If the change occurs, I’ll be selecting archery season.
Big Sky Guy
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Interesting. Hard to imagine having to choose between the two, would prefer a shortened rifle or pick a certain week for rifle as many have brought up. Any limitation on opportunity/overcrowding is probably worth trying at this point. I love archery hunting but since I’ve never harvested an elk in the 6 seasons of trying with a bow it’s hard for me to see myself picking archery given the success I’ve found with a rifle.
I've talked to and met with three of the committee members. They are putting a lot of time into this. I hope the Department gives their recommendations the consideration deserved. Having served on many of these committees in the past, I am aware of the work required. Thanks to all who are giving of their time do serve on this committee.
MTelkHuntress
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The pushback I'm seeing to pick your weapon has a lot of points but none of them that I see actually address why boat loads of cheap opportunity are any better (along with other negatives of too much pressure). Truthfully, I've slowly come to hate rifle season and would choose archery every time, even as unsuccessful as I am. I would like to think though that maybe with redistribution of elk and hunters that our success rates overall would improve with time? Although with the steady increase of hunters maybe not. I look forward to more discussion on the proposals and understanding how they can improve.
TheJason
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I think choose your weapon will greatly improve the quality of archery hunting.
Surprised they are focused on this instead of choosing your region/zone/unit.
Surprised they are focused on this instead of choosing your region/zone/unit.
JEL
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A little disappointed in this:
MTelkHuntress
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They did discuss this quite a bit in a few meetings and it would have been nice to explore this more. With these giant units that we have now, I'd wonder if breaking up the units would be helpful for distribution...even though that's not the direction the department is going.
MTelkHuntress
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The self proclaimed future poachers is a nice touch.
Some wild ideas and opinions for sure...
Sometimes I wish I could read that stuff. Bet it's eye opening. mtmuley
Certainly will show what the average Montanan values. Wallowing in shit. Expecting private land owners to magically open their gates for unlimited opportunity.
antlerradar
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future poacher my ass. If someone is claiming this, I bet they are poaching right now if there is an opportunity.
Gerald Martin
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BHA is short sighted in their opposition to restrictions on “opportunity” and only focusing on opening up inaccessible properties. That latter will not happen at a rate that eliminates the need for the former.
Quality and quantity of wildlife resources on accessible areas will continue to decline for as long as pressure is static or increasing.
Quality and quantity of wildlife resources on accessible areas will continue to decline for as long as pressure is static or increasing.
TheJason
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It is ludicrous to think you can do nothing and expect different results.
Whoever wrote that statement deserves a kick in the junk for not seeing the bigger picture.
Whoever wrote that statement deserves a kick in the junk for not seeing the bigger picture.
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