Montana Deer

[Ought Six]

At least people are starting to talk and blog about it I guess…

Montana Region 7 Deer Populations Cut In Half - Eastmans' Official Blog | Mule Deer, Antelope, Elk Hunting and Bowhunting Magazine | Eastmans' Hunting Journals

The Montana deer population survey numbers for 2022 were published late last year and show that mule

blog.eastmans.com

 

[wtrfwlhunter]

At least people are starting to talk and blog about it I guess…

Montana Region 7 Deer Populations Cut In Half - Eastmans' Official Blog | Mule Deer, Antelope, Elk Hunting and Bowhunting Magazine | Eastmans' Hunting Journals

The Montana deer population survey numbers for 2022 were published late last year and show that mule

blog.eastmans.com

Yeah….

Not sure what else to say. Pretty shitty.

 

[brian flatlander]

At least people are starting to talk and blog about it I guess…

Montana Region 7 Deer Populations Cut In Half - Eastmans' Official Blog | Mule Deer, Antelope, Elk Hunting and Bowhunting Magazine | Eastmans' Hunting Journals

The Montana deer population survey numbers for 2022 were published late last year and show that mule

blog.eastmans.com

subscrible to tag hub it will get better

 

[DFS]

I can’t imagine things will be better next year. The storm en route should decrease the numbers a bit more. The seasons are set for this year not much can be done about it. Makes me appreciate North Dakota which has actually cancelled seasons or gave refunds for tags when numbers are struggling.

 

[8andcounting]

I can’t imagine things will be better next year. The storm en route should decrease the numbers a bit more. The seasons are set for this year not much can be done about it. Makes me appreciate North Dakota which has actually cancelled seasons or gave refunds for tags when numbers are struggling.

You must have a short memory when it comes to nd game and fish trying to kill every last deer in the 2000s

 

[DFS]

You must have a short memory when it comes to nd game and fish trying to kill every last deer in the 2000s

I probably didn’t pay attention before 2010. Enlighten me.

 

[8andcounting]

I probably didn’t pay attention before 2010. Enlighten me.

140,000 + tags . Extra doe tags guys shooting however many they wanted , pretty much like eastern Montana is doing now . Some units in ND never recovered . Loss of a lot of crp acres at about the same time plus some bad winters were literally a perfect storm but they reacted about 5 years too late . Kinda like Montana is doing .

 

[rogerthat]

140,000 + tags . Extra doe tags guys shooting however many they wanted , pretty much like eastern Montana is doing now . Some units in ND never recovered . Loss of a lot of crp acres at about the same time plus some bad winters were literally a perfect storm but they reacted about 5 years too late . Kinda like Montana is doing .

What makes you think Montana is reacting?

 

[8andcounting]

What makes you think Montana is reacting?

Good point - I stand corrected .

 

[Ought Six]

The General Season is one thing, but it’s mind numbing that they are still giving 3500 mule deer doe tags and allowing them to be killed on public land.

 

[brownbear932008]

The General Season is one thing, but it’s mind numbing that they are still giving 3500 mule deer doe tags and allowing them to be killed on public land.

Gotta pay those FWP employees even if there are no animals left on the landscape. The more I think about it the more I begin to believe it's a doomed system from the start. State game agencies have created their own budget issues through bad business practices and spending. I think it's past time to trim some fat.

 

[Ought Six]

Gotta pay those FWP employees even if there are no animals left on the landscape. The more I think about it the more I begin to believe it's a doomed system from the start. State game agencies have created their own budget issues through bad business practices and spending. I think it's past time to trim some fat.

You don’t think they would still sell those 3500 tags if they put a no public land stipulation on them? I think they would still sell in a heart beat.

 

[Luis]

Ought Six, thanks for sharing that. I hunt that unit, and last year a local rancher told me mule deer sightings were the lowest he's seen in many years.

 

[DFS]

You don’t think they would still sell those 3500 tags if they put a no public land stipulation on them? I think they would still sell in a heart beat.

Mule deer management plan does not allow for them to distinguish doe tags for private or public. This is what I was told recently I have not looked into it. Seems like an easy one to make them private land only. Yes the tags would still sell out if it was private land only.

 

[antlerradar]

Mule deer management plan does not allow for them to distinguish doe tags for private or public. This is what I was told recently I have not looked into it. Seems like an easy one to make them private land only. Yes the tags would still sell out if it was private land only.

And we shouldn't care if they don't sell out. The reason there should be doe tags is to manage the herd, not generate revenue or provide someone with an opportunity tag so they can fill the freezer.

 

[Unlucky]

Does anyone know, how we can change montana mule deer management.

 

[EYJONAS!]

Does anyone know, how we can change montana mule deer management.

 

[brockel]

Does anyone know, how we can change montana mule deer management.

Shoot every mule deer in Montana. Then MAYBE fwp would make some changes. I’d assume they’d probably drop doe tags to around 1000 would be their only change.

 

[brownbear932008]

The reason there should be doe tags is to manage the herd, not generate revenue

This right here will be the most important words spoken in this thread. Right here lies the root of all these issues in Montana and many other states as far as that goes. Agencies have grown to large and budgets are to large so they must continue to push these tags to keep people in a job. Probably one of the biggest flaws to the model we use today to support wildlife.

 

[Unlucky]

Charge more money for less tags?