No, we can't back in time. But we can go back to individual unit tags not region wide tags.
Correct. But I think the issue many are taking who have been through the good times feel like we’re still managing basically the exact same way as when there were more animals, fewer people, and much less demand, along with much inferior technology back then in regards to hunting. For instance, not to beat a dead horse, but with way less mule deer on the landscape statewide and way more hunters, along with much better technology for hunt planning, shooting, etc., the management for antlered mule deer is almost completely unchanged and mostly too little too late for antlerless. Although there are some positives recently for muley does.
Your comment doesn't make sense. How would having less hunters in a unit cause there to be no animals on public? less hunters= less pressure.
I am saying that if you do what elky says and never look back at management that worked better, then you get progressively worse. Which just happens to be how mtfwp manages game for the most part.
Whereas I would argue that shifting baseline theory fails to take into account far too many factors, and only applies if you are shifting the baseline (arguably just accepting worse conditions over time) while all other factors remain the same.
That is why I said it was no fantasy. Yes we are never getting back to the"good ol' days". Which brings me to the next point. We can not continue to hunt like we did in the good ol days or hunting public is going to continue spiraling down. I think there was good arguments to combine some of the old antelope units in region 7 into bigger units. Consolidating all the antelope tags in region seven in to one unit was a mistake. Issuing tags and letting hunters disperse themselves is one of the good old days practices that just will not work with today's reality.
I heard the count in the Madison is about 50% of normal.
FWP issued no B tags last year for 360.
Last year they came out on the 3rd I believe so should be fairly soon.
Hopefully today…I don’t even care if we draw I more so just want to finalize plans for this fall.
Where'd you see that info?
According the FWP’s website the window to sign up for surplus antelope tags starts August 9th so should have results before then at the latest.
Got it, I thought maybe you had inside info that it was for sure happening 8/8.
What are you getting at?
