Montana 2025 Legislative Session

[DFS]

Lots of morons

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We are a long ways from rock bottom, I thought the tide was turning but I believe I am wrong.

 

[Gerald Martin]

Come to think of it, how many of you guys really want Elon Musk and DOGE knowing which unit you killed your deer in?

I’d definitely recommend stopping hunting and not buying a license….

 

[Forkyfinder]

I watched a lady stuck in her brand new ford bronco today in town. I wanted to stop and explain to her how to put it in 4wd

Should have told her she drives like she works from home

 

[Sytes]

Come to think of it, how many of you guys really want Elon Musk and DOGE knowing which unit you killed your deer in?

I’d definitely recommend stopping hunting and not buying a license….

Wha? Forget a "Documented" license... Just hunt as you like and no worries, it's classified as "Undocumented Hunter".

 

[TheJason]

Lots of morons

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[Eric Albus]

While I dislike that we now need to regulate shed antler hunting as much as anyone on the planet. I dislike the fact we NEED to even worse. It’s a pathetic bunch of ego driven DUCKZ that have ruined it for all. In R6 we have a handful of guys torturing rut worn winter weary mule deer out of Canada so they can pick up a shed antler. It’s a sickness, honestly these ppl need counseling. Same in other R’s, folks with elk antler ego driven puke behavior.
Sign me disgusted

 

[Badlandcat]

While I dislike that we now need to regulate shed antler hunting as much as anyone on the planet. I dislike the fact we NEED to even worse. It’s a pathetic bunch of ego driven DUCKZ that have ruined it for all. In R6 we have a handful of guys torturing rut worn winter weary mule deer out of Canada so they can pick up a shed antler. It’s a sickness, honestly these ppl need counseling. Same in other R’s, folks with elk antler ego driven puke behavior.
Sign me disgusted

Why wasn't there any language addressing trespassing to steal sheds attached to this bill?

 

[Eric Albus]

Why wasn't there any language addressing trespassing to steal sheds attached to this bill?

Not certain, perhaps an amendment will be forthcoming

 

[bigsky2]

Why wasn't there any language addressing trespassing to steal sheds attached to this bill?

That’s a separate bill.

 

[Ben Lamb]

That’s a separate bill.

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[Forkyfinder]

Anyone see SB 270?

Apparently - it will eliminate the 3 elk b tag cap and allow unlimited cow tags for landowners/employees.

Seems like a death sentence for all the existing programs landowners have to deal with elk.

 

[huntin24/7]

People are losing their minds over this $10 shed hunting license. I hope they put a season for it too and watch people go even more crazy. And I like taking the family out for a few walks in the spring looking for sheds.

 

[Carnage2011]

People are losing their minds over this $10 shed hunting license. I hope they put a season for it too and watch people go even more crazy. And I like taking the family out for a few walks in the spring looking for sheds.

Didn't the $10 shed license for residents get axed?

 

[huntin24/7]

Didn't the $10 shed license for residents get axed?

It might have. I haven’t been following much of any news the last several days.

 

[bigsky2]

Didn't the $10 shed license for residents get axed?

Yeah, the shed hunting license for residents would be included with their conservation license. $50 shed hunting license for NR would still apply.

 

[Beignet]

Anyone see SB 270?

Apparently - it will eliminate the 3 elk b tag cap and allow unlimited cow tags for landowners/employees.

Seems like a death sentence for all the existing programs landowners have to deal with elk.

Can it please kill the BS 454 program?

(I know it won’t since that’s technically an “access” program)

 

[Nameless Range]

Anyone see SB 270?

Apparently - it will eliminate the 3 elk b tag cap and allow unlimited cow tags for landowners/employees.

Seems like a death sentence for all the existing programs landowners have to deal with elk.

Seems it would definitely put an end to a lot of damage hunt opportunities, probably shoulder season opportunities, etc. It's unnecessary and caters to a few to the detriment of the many.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Anyone see SB 270?

Apparently - it will eliminate the 3 elk b tag cap and allow unlimited cow tags for landowners/employees.

Seems like a death sentence for all the existing programs landowners have to deal with elk.

That's not what the bill does.

It:

1.) lifts the 2 antlerless cap, yes but it directs the agency to create a matrix that scales the issuance of tags based on objective range & desired herd conditions.

2.) caps NR's to no more than 2 elk B if they hold a B10 or elk combo. 1 license if a NR doesn't have a B10 or elk combo. Same as deer.

The concept is about management of elk populations by using licensed hunters rather than kill permits to deal with large overpopulation.

It would likely help in terms of shoulder seasons & getting a reduction in populations in areas that are chronically over objective range & while landowners & their employees could buy licenses, so could everyone else.

The bill essentially manages antlerless elk like antlerless deer in statute. It doesn't give anyone permission to shoot unlimited amounts of elk.

 

[Forkyfinder]

That's not what the bill does.

It:

1.) lifts the 2 antlerless cap, yes but it directs the agency to create a matrix that scales the issuance of tags based on objective range & desired herd conditions.

2.) caps NR's to no more than 2 elk B if they hold a B10 or elk combo. 1 license if a NR doesn't have a B10 or elk combo. Same as deer.

The concept is about management of elk populations by using licensed hunters rather than kill permits to deal with large overpopulation.

It would likely help in terms of shoulder seasons & getting a reduction in populations in areas that are chronically over objective range & while landowners & their employees could buy licenses, so could everyone else.

The bill essentially manages antlerless elk like antlerless deer in statute. It doesn't give anyone permission to shoot unlimited amounts of elk.

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That's not what the bill does.

It:

1.) lifts the 2 antlerless cap, yes but it directs the agency to create a matrix that scales the issuance of tags based on objective range & desired herd conditions.

2.) caps NR's to no more than 2 elk B if they hold a B10 or elk combo. 1 license if a NR doesn't have a B10 or elk combo. Same as deer.

The concept is about management of elk populations by using licensed hunters rather than kill permits to deal with large overpopulation.

It would likely help in terms of shoulder seasons & getting a reduction in populations in areas that are chronically over objective range & while landowners & their employees could buy licenses, so could everyone else.

The bill essentially manages antlerless elk like antlerless deer in statute. It doesn't give anyone permission to shoot unlimited amounts of elk.

I am not seeing the "overpopulation" on a areas that accept much access. There is no legitimate reason to allow anyone to possess an unlimited amount of B tags.

 

[Nameless Range]

That's not what the bill does.

It:

1.) lifts the 2 antlerless cap, yes but it directs the agency to create a matrix that scales the issuance of tags based on objective range & desired herd conditions.

2.) caps NR's to no more than 2 elk B if they hold a B10 or elk combo. 1 license if a NR doesn't have a B10 or elk combo. Same as deer.

The concept is about management of elk populations by using licensed hunters rather than kill permits to deal with large overpopulation.

It would likely help in terms of shoulder seasons & getting a reduction in populations in areas that are chronically over objective range & while landowners & their employees could buy licenses, so could everyone else.

The bill essentially manages antlerless elk like antlerless deer in statute. It doesn't give anyone permission to shoot unlimited amounts of elk.

It sure seems like a landowner in over-objective districts where damage hunts requiring a large portion of the licensed hunters to be from the public currently take place (Madison Valley for example), the public opportunity provided by damage hunts could be limited by this change - seeing as how if the matrix allows, family, friends, (those willing to pay trespass fees?) could and probably from the perspective of a landowner would preferably be the licensed hunters as opposed to the general public.

Not trying to be difficult, but I don't see anything in the text of this bill that even references district objectives. I have lost faith in the whole concept of our Commission enough that I would be hesitant to give them more rope with which to reduce public opportunity.