Ok.. so more my fault for asking for information - never mind - Thanks to those who provided helpful info - I am grateful....to those who only cast aspersions and made excuses -- my sympathies to the people in your life ...now you can sob and complain some more like you prefer!...I'll figure this out no matter what...another useless forum and waste of my time..I am sure I am not the first though.....I will share this with folks too.....good bye