Hawk Tuah
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So IDFG can make more money in order to spend it.But “why” is there an archery fee in the first place?
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So IDFG can make more money in order to spend it.But “why” is there an archery fee in the first place?
Certainly better than my California days. That was an A-hole free-for-all.I feel a little bad for you ID residents. We pulled up to a trailhead this fall, all nine of the rigs were out of state. But I've yet to meet a prick in the woods in ID. WA is full of them!
I looked up the license sales published in the commissioner report. I removed the fishing licenses categories from total license sales to roughly get hunting license sales.Since 1990, Idaho has kept the same cap on NR deer/elk tags, if I recall correctly. In that same time, Idaho has added 780,000 new residents, of which I suspect a good percentage are now resident hunters. To say that crowding is the result of non-residents is not supported by the figures.
Doesn't mean good entertainment can't be derived from blaming non-residents for all that is wrong with hunting in whatever state. Hell, blaming non-residents is considered another form of sport in the west.
Carry on .......
I looked up the license sales published in the commissioner report. I removed the fishing licenses categories from total license sales to roughly get hunting license sales.
2011 resident hunting licenses - roughly 217k.
2019 resident hunting licenses - roughly 216k. Flat sales.
Total resident license sales, which includes fish, rose from 352k to 368k, a 4.5% increase.
2011 NR hunting - 40k
2019 NR hunting - 58k. A 45% increase.
Total NR licenses increased from 171k to 226k, a 32% increase.
Resident deer rose 14% and elk 20%.
NR deer and elk license sales both rose 50%.
a 6% total increase in pressure doesn't seem like much to complain about.
Until you actually live it... No one thinks that the pressure and congestion is just due to non-resident participation. But it is a factor that can not be ignored. There are too many people, period. Other factors need to be addressed as well, and the Idaho Fish and Game needs to manage and not profit on Idaho's wildlife.
I don't like limiting anyone from utilizing something that belongs to everyone. But something has to be done.
Boy did I ever get a wake up call on blue states. Flew out to Oregon this year to burn my NR points and took wife to Yosemite. This was gas price in CA compared to price at home in Indiana when we returned. Same for hotel prices. Wife and I got 5 star resort hotels in Reno for the same $100/nite as the fleabag hotels in Lakeview, OR. While there took a drive to Washington insane breakfast price. All my 44 OR points were burned and I have zero desire to return to any of these four blue states. I'm lucky to have a highly flexible work from home job where I can choose to live in 7 different midwest states. Got the hell out of Illinois two years ago and our choice was solely based on liberal taxes. Like Wisconsin but it's mortgaged to outrageous state employee pensions too and other hidden taxes like Illinois. So we picked conservative north central Indiana. Lowest cost of living in US. 3/2/2 1600 SF ranch on 1/2 acre = $116k with property tax of $880/year, capped by state constitution at 1%. We love it so far. Burden of subsidizing other people is very low here.No - b/c you have a shitload of new resident hunters everywhere with more coming from the communist state of Kalifornia, the People's Republic of Oregon and King Inslee's Washington State
Since 1990, Idaho has kept the same cap on NR deer/elk tags, if I recall correctly. In that same time, Idaho has added 780,000 new residents, of which I suspect a good percentage are now resident hunters. To say that crowding is the result of non-residents is not supported by the figures.
Absolutely. Same story with NR tags.I think all states in the west need to double resident tag prices across the board. For the amount of meat deer and elk tags under $50 dollars is a smoking good deal.
Be careful who you tell. People love to come to a good place and turn it into the cesspool they left. Does sound nice though.Boy did I ever get a wake up call on blue states. Flew out to Oregon this year to burn my NR points and took wife to Yosemite. This was gas price in CA compared to price at home in Indiana when we returned. Same for hotel prices. Wife and I got 5 star resort hotels in Reno for the same $100/nite as the fleabag hotels in Lakeview, OR. While there took a drive to Washington insane breakfast price. All my 44 OR points were burned and I have zero desire to return to any of these four blue states. I'm lucky to have a highly flexible work from home job where I can choose to live in 7 different midwest states. Got the hell out of Illinois two years ago and our choice was solely based on liberal taxes. Like Wisconsin but it's mortgaged to outrageous state employee pensions too and other hidden taxes like Illinois. So we picked conservative north central Indiana. Lowest cost of living in US. 3/2/2 1600 SF ranch on 1/2 acre = $116k with property tax of $880/year, capped by state constitution at 1%. We love it.
I don't expect anyone to be interested. Population in this small town has remained at 21,000 since 1950! Nothing fancy, country life but not too far from Chicago or South Bend. Wife is retired and I am semi-retired. And we have a condo in Sichuan, China paid off too. That makes for some exotic travel yearly.Be careful who you tell. People love to come to a good place and turn it into the cesspool they left. Does sound nice though.
Reno? Wasn’t NV a blue state? This post is riddled with absurdity. Enjoy Indiana.Boy did I ever get a wake up call on blue states. Flew out to Oregon this year to burn my NR points and took wife to Yosemite. This was gas price in CA compared to price at home in Indiana when we returned. Same for hotel prices. Wife and I got 5 star resort hotels in Reno for the same $100/nite as the fleabag hotels in Lakeview, OR. While there took a drive to Washington insane breakfast price. All my 44 OR points were burned and I have zero desire to return to any of these four blue states. I'm lucky to have a highly flexible work from home job where I can choose to live in 7 different midwest states. Got the hell out of Illinois two years ago and our choice was solely based on liberal taxes. Like Wisconsin but it's mortgaged to outrageous state employee pensions too and other hidden taxes like Illinois. So we picked conservative north central Indiana. Lowest cost of living in US. 3/2/2 1600 SF ranch on 1/2 acre = $116k with property tax of $880/year, capped by state constitution at 1%. We love it.
Good point I don't pay much attention but it seems Nevada is gradually switching from red to blue? This was my first time to Reno since 1970. The city is full of homeless people, especially the old downtown and Truckee Riverwalk. The newer casino's isolate themselves a mile+ west of this fiasco in self contained resort environments where grocery cart pushing bums can be restricted. But many still doze the day away in the shade on artificial turf next to the sidewalks. That's Reno. But so far on weekdays you can get upgraded rooms at 5 star resorts with great pools for $100/nite. This salvaged two pathetic hunting trips to southern Oregon for us. I'll return one more time when I burn my 24 NV pronghorn points. I expect it'll be completely blue by then.Reno? Wasn’t NV a blue state? This post is riddled with absurdity. Enjoy Indiana.
I'd rather cut my nuts off then smash them with a sledge than live in IN. It literally says in my will that should my wife and I die before our kids are adults they cannot be moved to Indiana (where my SIL lives). There is more to life than politics and taxes.Boy did I ever get a wake up call on blue states. Flew out to Oregon this year to burn my NR points and took wife to Yosemite. This was gas price in CA compared to price at home in Indiana when we returned. Same for hotel prices. Wife and I got 5 star resort hotels in Reno for the same $100/nite as the fleabag hotels in Lakeview, OR. While there took a drive to Washington insane breakfast price. All my 44 OR points were burned and I have zero desire to return to any of these four blue states. I'm lucky to have a highly flexible work from home job where I can choose to live in 7 different midwest states. Got the hell out of Illinois two years ago and our choice was solely based on liberal taxes. Like Wisconsin but it's mortgaged to outrageous state employee pensions too and other hidden taxes like Illinois. So we picked conservative north central Indiana. Lowest cost of living in US. 3/2/2 1600 SF ranch on 1/2 acre = $116k with property tax of $880/year, capped by state constitution at 1%. We love it so far. Burden of subsidizing other people is very low here.
That colorful sunset is just clouds of meth smoke drifting in from Oregon. I’m not impressed.I'd rather cut my nuts off then smash them with a sledge than live in IN. It literally says in my will that should my wife and I die before our kids are adults they cannot be moved to Indiana (where my SIL lives). There is more to life than politics and taxes.
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WA sucks.