rogerthat
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I would have took the job but it’s not telework eligible. If I could warden while drinking cocktails in Cabo we would have a deal.
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Seems to be the opposite to me. A lot of times the only way to get a pay raise is to job hop every couple years. Most employers don't give raises to loyal employees. I think they count on the fact that people don't want to go though the hassle of finding a new job.Longevity is only way to get a pay raise, takes a certain type person!
MDT and County Maintenance pick up roadkill. My grandpa was a game warden years ago in Butte and he caught an armed man he’d busted for poaching stalking his house to attack his family. $56k to work 24/7 where nearly every citation you issue is someone who has already committed a crime with a weapon - no thanks.I'll bet it's mostly just picking up roadkill. If you are a true meateater, that might be a decent benefit.
Pretty sure wardens aren’t unionized or they’d pay better. More like get the legislature out of the pay structure because they have to approve cost-of-living adjustments.Get the unions out of government employment and pay the employees the same wages as private sector. It's a win win all the way around .
Rivet mile?It was my dream to be a warden all through my early adulthood. I even went to the first year of school for it last year. But, I work in the Nuclear Missile Field for the Airforce and make almost $40 per hour working 4-10s and having every friday-sunday off... including 4 weeks of vacation I can use whenever I want. Pretty hard to pass that up for a 4 year degree that pays half of what I make now.
Your retirement will be pretty nice at that point, especially if you make it to 61. Yeah, its tough to be working when you want to be having fun in the woods.Rivet mile?
Same boat here, went to college before the military, interned with the Oklahoma Game & Fish for two semesters. Loved every second. But I'll be damned if every time I would want to be in the field or on the boat, we were working. That was huge factor why I didn't pursue. I still think about it, but i have 14 yrs left before I hit 30 with the feds at age 51.
I was the same way growing up, then a friend of my dad's who was a C.O. for IDF&G had a long, truthful talk with me. Turns out I was making more as an 18 year old carpenter then he was as a 50 year old. He also dissuaded me because of my temper, but the money part was the biggest thing in my mind.It was my dream to be a warden all through my early adulthood. I even went to the first year of school for it last year. But, I work in the Nuclear Missile Field for the Airforce and make almost $40 per hour working 4-10s and having every friday-sunday off... including 4 weeks of vacation I can use whenever I want. Pretty hard to pass that up for a 4 year degree that pays half of what I make now.
Those interactions and assets to rely on at an early age are so underrated. Its awesome that you had someones brain to pick and someone who shot straight with you.I was the same way growing up, then a friend of my dad's who was a C.O. for IDF&G had a long, truthful talk with me. Turns out I was making more as an 18 year old carpenter then he was as a 50 year old. He also dissuaded me because of my temper, but the money part was the biggest thing in my mind.
Will always be grateful to him for having that crucial conversation with me when I was a kid. Saved me a lot of money pursuing the Wildlife Bio degree I was planning on pursuing.
When I’m interviewing someone and I see multiple “job hops”, I dig deeper into the reasoning. Could be warranted or it could be a huge red flag.Seems to be the opposite to me. A lot of times the only way to get a pay raise is to job hop every couple years. Most employers don't give raises to loyal employees. I think they count on the fact that people don't want to go though the hassle of finding a new job.
Those types of employers/managers are hard to come by ime. But yes there are some and it sure made going to work for them a lot easier imo.Being fair and sharing the wealth with the employees goes a long way in creating and maintaining a loyal/winning culture.
With those requirements it sounds like a job that should be paying $150k+. I bet they’d get some good candidates if the number was even close to that.Is it me or is this job posting not the most encouraging? I'd probably re-word this if they actually want to hire anyone.
It made me smile.
HELENA – Do you like to be in the Montana outdoors working with hunters, anglers and boaters? Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks is seeking applicants to fill nine game warden positions.
“It’s one of those jobs where It’s not even a job,” said Region 6 Sergeant FWP Game Warden Andy Matakis. “It’s a way of life. It’s being that person in your community that people can rely on. No two days in this job are the same.”
To watch Matakis at work, click here.
To become a game warden in Montana, applicants must successfully complete the Montana Law Enforcement Academy Basic Course or have equivalent training.
Typically, a game warden is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week to support field staff, respond to the public and address wildlife issues. Job demands are heaviest during weekends and holidays.
Wardens must be in excellent physical health. The position requires frequent climbing, bending, pushing, pulling, dragging and lifting. Duties include working with sick or injured wildlife; removing illegal kills; trapping and relocating animals; backpacking; horseback patrols; and operating boats, snowmobiles and OHVs. Good communication skills are also necessary as use of force incidents can occur. Wardens must be in excellent mental condition as they must deal with all types of personalities and stress levels.
Game wardens can experience potentially dangerous interactions with criminals while enforcing the law and can be subject to assault and encounter hazardous substances. Because of these potential situations, good communication skills and strong mental health are necessary.
“I like to say you earn your badge every day,” Matakis said. “It’s not something I take lightly.”
Women and minorities are under-represented in this job category and are strongly encouraged to apply. Successful applicants will be subject to a full background investigation.
For more information, go to fwp.mt.gov/aboutfwp/enforcement/warden-hiring. To apply, click here. Applications will be accepted through Jan. 1, 2024.
Yeah, I'd love to find an employer like that. I have worked for 3 employers in 20 years. Two in the last 6 years since moving into the IT field. I think I need to find a larger employer with room to move up. I've been working in smaller companies in IT and they don't usually have a lot of positions to move up in the company.When I’m interviewing someone and I see multiple “job hops”, I dig deeper into the reasoning. Could be warranted or it could be a huge red flag.
I’ve been with the same employer for 23 yrs and have received a raise and bonus every yr. Effort, behavior, corp performance(financially and from a safety standpoint) all determine how big the compensation reward is. Being fair and sharing the wealth with the employees goes a long way in creating and maintaining a loyal/winning culture.
I do get your point about not wanting to start over or interview again, especially the deeper you go into ones career. I guess some of that depends on how specialized your role is.
There is a warden union in MTPretty sure wardens aren’t unionized or they’d pay better. More like get the legislature out of the pay structure because they have to approve cost-of-living adjustments.
Wholeheartedly disagree with the idea of dropping the degree requirement. In talking with most wardens, they think it’s important too. As a group of people on here who care deeply about the resource and hunting, why on earth would we want less-qualified applicants?They would get more applicants if they dropped the B.A requirement
Exactly. I also notice that all the people on here with public-sector jobs know when they can retire, almost to the day. I mean, I don;t blame them, but it ain't exactly a selling point to new applicants.Wholeheartedly disagree with the idea of dropping the degree requirement. In talking with most wardens, they think it’s important too. As a group of people on here who care deeply about the resource and hunting, why on earth would we want less-qualified applicants?
Warden jobs are so much more diverse than a typical officer’s or deputy’s. They fill the roles of patrolling, investigating, bringing cases, helping with resource management, etc. They don’t have the same amount of help that perhaps other members of law enforcement in the community have, so they need to be better at everything to account for it.
The solution is simple—pay them more.
I’ve worked with people I always thought were pretty responsible that also waited close to a decade before they even thought about investing into a differed comp system. They just kinda thought the state retirement system would be more than enough I guess?Exactly. I also notice that all the people on here with public-sector jobs know when they can retire, almost to the day. I mean, I don;t blame them, but it ain't exactly a selling point to new applicants.
"Young people just don't want to work anymore" says 55yo guy working for the state knowing he can retire with full benefits in 1747days.
Exactly. I also notice that all the people on here with public-sector jobs know when they can retire, almost to the day. I mean, I don;t blame them, but it ain't exactly a selling point to new applicants.
"Young people just don't want to work anymore" says 55yo guy working for the state knowing he can retire with full benefits in 1747days.