Nick87
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Buzz is following me around today!View attachment 321543
Omg dude I'm on my way. Been waiting for this my whole life!!! WOLVERINES!!!!!
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Buzz is following me around today!View attachment 321543
Curious, if in the US hunters could have the antlers and 10 meals (pretty much what you get in Africa trip) worth of elk but the rest all went to local food bank would you quit hunting? Smuggly snark at those who didn’t?The pivot elk would at least make it to the freezer.
I've been fortunate enough to have done 12 international hunts, and I have brought meat home from Canadian hunts and Alaskan hunts. I've done 6 hunts in Africa: South Africa, Zimbabwe, and Mozambique. Yes, I brought skins and horns home, but the US Government does not allow any meat to be brought home. On one trip home, I bought a small package of commericially prepared biltong (jerky) at a Johannesburg airport gift store, and it was conficated by US Customs at the Atlanta airport.Not one person I've ever talked to that has hunted African isn't fully aware that there aren't bringing anything home but trophies.
You cannot compare the wages of rural Africans with the government mandated minimum wages here in America. For many of them their only income is little stand on the side of a road where they try to sell fruit or vegetables that they grow on their little patch of dry dirt next to their dirt floor, 200 sf mud walls and grass roofed shack with a half dozen half naked, barefoot kids, chickens, and a few goats. They are very happy to be employed in a hunting camp. Trophy Hunter's dollars pay the wages of the camp staff. Yes, being employed at a hunting camp really does help out many of these people.It's awesome some African's are employed with peanut wages, all the neck meat they can eat, and a couple pairs of coveralls a year. Really helps out.
It's awesome to have your clothes washed and pressed everyday, being waited on hand and foot, knowing how great a life you're providing for the staff that does all the work on your trophy hunt.
Is what it is, but not my style. The work is 50% of the hunt for me and I don't want others doing it for me. In particular for slave wages.
I like to sleep at night.
I would quit, absolutely yes. Would still give money to wildlife, work for conservation, habitat, public lands, etc.Curious, if in the US hunters could have the antlers and 10 meals (pretty much what you get in Africa trip) worth of elk but the rest all went to local food bank would you quit hunting? Smuggly snark at those who didn’t?
I for one couldn’t care less about antlers, and hunt for the experience with my son and with nature (which of course happens without guns too - we call that fishing season), and for the meat. But did do one African hunt. Fun experience, not my bag so not looking to do it again. Lots of ways to hunt. Lots of reasons to hunt. EU should let their old colonies manage there own affairs.
Hey you keep those rhino foot ashtrays out of here, this thread is about elephant foot trash cans!
Maybe of the Minnesota guys on here need to do a welfare check on @rjthehunter seems. This thread seems like something he normally wouldn't miss out on...maybe he and @The Hedgehog (God dammit that took me a while to find the right name!) Are busy putting together a spring bear hunt?
Just like the term "Assault Weapon" was invented by an ignorant news media and perpetuated by ignorant politions who know virtually nothing about firearms other than civilian semi-auto AR and AK rifles look like their military counterparts, people who say that Trophy Hunting is a bad thing, usually don't know what they are talking about.
I think desk pop did a great job of summarizing why the tuskless gene is not desirable in the population. Elephants need tusks for part of their feeding. Being tuskless is a genetic defect, and it requires them to steal food from elephants who have tusks. In a small normal percentage, like 3%, it’s not a big deal. But when that percentage starts to climb it then becomes problematic. I have heard reports of places where up to 10% of the population is now tuskless. If that percentage were to become too high, it would have a catastrophic effect on elephants. Essentially it would get to the point where the tusked elephants would not be able to provide enough food for the Tuskless and for themselves.Why is the tuskless cow bad for the gene pool? Got to justify smoking them for some legitimate reason I guess.
I just saw that - you beat me to it!Elephants have to go. Think of the elderly.
Elderly American tourist killed in elephant attack while on safari in Zambia
An elderly American tourist was killed after an "aggressive" bull elephant attacked a vehicle during a game drive in Zambia, the safari operator said. The incident took place Saturday morning at Kafue National Park, a Lusaka Police spokesperson confirmed to ABC News. Gail Mattson, 79, was...www.yahoo.com
Thank you for the kind words.I've never been interested in Africa. Not gonna lie, you make that sound like an awfully good time though. Good luck on your trip.
#darwincallingElephants have to go. Think of the elderly.
Elderly American tourist killed in elephant attack while on safari in Zambia
An elderly American tourist was killed after an "aggressive" bull elephant attacked a vehicle during a game drive in Zambia, the safari operator said. The incident took place Saturday morning at Kafue National Park, a Lusaka Police spokesperson confirmed to ABC News. Gail Mattson, 79, was...www.yahoo.com
Thank you!Great post. Sounds like Moz was awesome.
You'll love the elephant if you liked tracking buffalo. Best of luck.
Elephants have to go. Think of the elderly.
Elderly American tourist killed in elephant attack while on safari in Zambia
An elderly American tourist was killed after an "aggressive" bull elephant attacked a vehicle during a game drive in Zambia, the safari operator said. The incident took place Saturday morning at Kafue National Park, a Lusaka Police spokesperson confirmed to ABC News. Gail Mattson, 79, was...www.yahoo.com
I think you need to be more specific. What you are talking about is how it is done in South Africa. Game is privately owned and can be sold, and often is.Most places keep the meat and sell it to markets. It goes to the locals that can afford to buy it.
The staff/help get the neck meat and organ meat.
Bring a big f’ing shovel, a ladder and pack a lunch . . .
Finally put to rest!I can't believe this thread has gone this long. Theres no need for a back and forth on this. I'm the only one with righteous hunting motives and everyone else is a bloodsucking insect.