BigHornRam
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Russia is going to invade Alaska? That would be a problem with a micro reactor too, would it not?
Gillette WY to build nuclear power plants
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SD_Prairie_Goat
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In this theoretical example, lesser issues.
Power continuity is critical in war time. A micro( or traditional) is self sustaining for a fairly long time. Great for operational readiness
Like I said, if it's so safe feel free to advocate for keeping it ALL in Wyoming under your house. We don't want it at Yucca Mountain.
EastTNHunter
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You should see the size of the catfish at the intake stations at the Nuc plants around here. They’re YUGE! But not zoomied up.
Based on performance in Ukraine, Russia isn’t going to invade Alaska, successfully.
Gellar
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He was after Wels Catfish which are the biggest species of catfish in the world at over 200 pounds.
I’ve heard stories from divers going below the lock and dams on the Mississippi they see catfish with eyes the size of your head.
EastTNHunter
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Yeah, I’ve seen some of his other videos on the Wales catfish and they are huge. I just know that these power plants act like magnets to the big cats… the intake filter screens churn the water and concentrate the baitfish for them to engorge on.
Now back to Nuc dialogue. I’ve worked IN the Nuc world, and currently work WITH the Nuc world. Regulations and costs for permitting and safeguards in that world are insane. Much of this is tied to true safety, while much of it is tied to politics and public perception defense. But it is a VERY efficient and carbon free way to generate power. The spent fuel storage is a concern, but much of that has to do with misunderstanding and nimbyism so other solutions have been found for dispersed storage until a way to recycle it has been found. Most nuclear “waste” can be cleaned or disposed of in a way that is not a concern.
BigHornRam
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One EMP attack, and it will be time to get the hamster on a wheel out of the storage closet.
corndog1
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Bull shit he said nothing of your family members or their jobs.
VikingsGuy
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And it was completely obsolete technology not used in any modern economy.
VikingsGuy
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They need the extra power to activate all the biochips he snuck into our bodies via the COVID vaccines . . . .
BuzzH
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I think vodka breaks might have been a factor.
BigHornRam
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Nah. Too busy diddling minors on an island.
3855WIN
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BigHornRam
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The real reason nuclear is not going to be a viable option in the future. It's too frickin expensive.
abcnews.go.com
"Even some opponents of Vogtle have said the United States can’t achieve carbon-free electricity without nuclear power. But Georgia Power, like other utilities, plans to build more fossil fuel generation in coming years, saying demand is rising sharply. That demand, driven by computer data centers, is being felt by multiple utilities across the country.
Calculations show Vogtle’s electricity will never be cheaper than other sources the owners could have chosen, even after the federal government reduced borrowing costs by guaranteeing repayment of $12 billion in loans."
A second new nuclear reactor is completed in Georgia. The carbon-free power comes at a high price
The second of two new nuclear reactors in Georgia has entered commercial operation
"Even some opponents of Vogtle have said the United States can’t achieve carbon-free electricity without nuclear power. But Georgia Power, like other utilities, plans to build more fossil fuel generation in coming years, saying demand is rising sharply. That demand, driven by computer data centers, is being felt by multiple utilities across the country.
Calculations show Vogtle’s electricity will never be cheaper than other sources the owners could have chosen, even after the federal government reduced borrowing costs by guaranteeing repayment of $12 billion in loans."
4ohSick
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The only reason it's so expensive is because of the extraordinarily high regulatory requirements relative to other forms of energy and the NIMBYism that is on prominent display in this thread.The real reason nuclear is not going to be a viable option in the future. It's too frickin expensive.
A second new nuclear reactor is completed in Georgia. The carbon-free power comes at a high price
The second of two new nuclear reactors in Georgia has entered commercial operation
"Even some opponents of Vogtle have said the United States can’t achieve carbon-free electricity without nuclear power. But Georgia Power, like other utilities, plans to build more fossil fuel generation in coming years, saying demand is rising sharply. That demand, driven by computer data centers, is being felt by multiple utilities across the country.
Calculations show Vogtle’s electricity will never be cheaper than other sources the owners could have chosen, even after the federal government reduced borrowing costs by guaranteeing repayment of $12 billion in loans."
BigHornRam
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Stubborn CNN not ready to through in towel just yet.
www.eastidahonews.com
"In 2020, Oregon-based NuScale’s SMR design was the first in the country to win regulatory approval. But it announced in November 2023 it was pulling the plug on an Idaho-based demonstration project that could have ushered in the next wave of SMRs. Its costs had nearly doubled, which meant the project wouldn’t have been able to generate power at a price people would pay.
Much like large-scale nuclear plants, NuScale’s primary issue was high costs, as already expensive building supplies converged with tight supply chains, inflation and high interest rates.
It was a major blow to the argument that SMRs would be cheaper and faster to build than traditional reactors."
New-wave reactor technology could kick-start a nuclear renaissance — and the US is banking on it - East Idaho News
(CNN) — Off the Siberian coast, not far from Alaska, a Russian ship has been docked at port for four years. The Akademik Lomonosov, the world’s first floating nuclear power plant, sends energy to around 200,000 people on land using next-wave nuclear technology: small modular reactors. This...
www.eastidahonews.com
"In 2020, Oregon-based NuScale’s SMR design was the first in the country to win regulatory approval. But it announced in November 2023 it was pulling the plug on an Idaho-based demonstration project that could have ushered in the next wave of SMRs. Its costs had nearly doubled, which meant the project wouldn’t have been able to generate power at a price people would pay.
Much like large-scale nuclear plants, NuScale’s primary issue was high costs, as already expensive building supplies converged with tight supply chains, inflation and high interest rates.
It was a major blow to the argument that SMRs would be cheaper and faster to build than traditional reactors."
BigHornRam
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Read it again. Already had regulatory approval in 2020.
"In 2020, Oregon-based NuScale’s SMR design was the first in the country to win regulatory approval. But it announced in November 2023 it was pulling the plug on an Idaho-based demonstration project that could have ushered in the next wave of SMRs. Its costs had nearly doubled, which meant the project wouldn’t have been able to generate power at a price people would pay.
Much like large-scale nuclear plants, NuScale’s primary issue was high costs, as already expensive building supplies converged with tight supply chains, inflation and high interest rates.
It was a major blow to the argument that SMRs would be cheaper and faster to build than traditional reactors."
VikingsGuy
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Regulation of nukes is an on-going process. Every tweak, every change, every new location results in millions of regulatory review. The theory is these smaller nukes will be more consistent and that will reduce cost of regulatory oversight. That is speculation, the govt and anti-nuke folks haven't yet agreed these will be treated more routinely. Plus all the at location litigation and regulation (some if it serious NIMBY). Look at how much the regulatory and NGO litigation adds to simple pipelines.
And yes, even without regs, everything costs 2x these days.
