shootbrownelk
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I agree 100% JWP!
Cruz is Out
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Not much public land to be found in TX.
JWP58
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What an astute observation you made there!
Now to be clear, I am a Texan, that lives in a western state with a fair amount of public land (not that it matters, since its public and belongs to ALL of the people in the U.S.). I'll always be a Texan, born and raised. Too proud to assume some false identity in a foreign land I suppose lol
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Elkmagnet
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Absolutely!
noharleyyet
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Zach
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Bold #1, who do you think has been funding the establishment? http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...68/donald-trumps-flipping-political-donations
Bold #2, That is argument enough to prove that the Donald isn't a true conservative, IMO.
Carry on with the TX/Cruz bashing....
James Riley
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#1. There is a world of difference between those who buy politicians and the politicians who can be bought. When the former becomes a politician he is less likely to become the latter. Especially if he was not elected by those who buy politicians.
#2. Define "true conservative." I agree that Trump is not the xenophobic, misogynistic, racist bigot that everyone makes him out to be. Nor is he likely to care if you are gay, kill your fetus, smoke pot, or what god you pray to. He's probably all about minding your own business and not being a high class muscle man for Big Business. He's just trolling the corporate media and all the folks who are dumb enough to think he's *not* trolling. If that means he's not a "true conservative" then I reckon that is a good thing, IMO. That kind of "true conservative" is should never be in power and if that part of the R Party is dead now, good riddance, I say.
Southwind
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I really don't think this election cycle so far has told us about political principles, values or issues for the most part. I just think it is purely anti-establishment driving the train. Who really knows the picture we have been painted is real or what others want us to believe is real. I am by no means a conspiracy theorist but between the media and politicians in general anymore there are none. I would hang my hat on.
The idea of selling off public lands to pay down the national debt has ever resonated with me for several of my own selfish wants but at it's very basic core there is nothing in our history that tells me our government wouldn't go right back to overspending until we are right back where we are only with no public lands.
Time will tell on it all, I frankly don't feel any of them represent me.
There was a pretty good movie "The Iron Cross" and a phrase at the end of the movie has always stuck with me.
And I do paraphrase " Do not rejoice in their defeat, fore the bitch that bore them is back in heat"
The idea of selling off public lands to pay down the national debt has ever resonated with me for several of my own selfish wants but at it's very basic core there is nothing in our history that tells me our government wouldn't go right back to overspending until we are right back where we are only with no public lands.
Time will tell on it all, I frankly don't feel any of them represent me.
There was a pretty good movie "The Iron Cross" and a phrase at the end of the movie has always stuck with me.
And I do paraphrase " Do not rejoice in their defeat, fore the bitch that bore them is back in heat"
Washington Hunter
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Yea, I was born in Texas but I would never brag about that.
Yea well here is what trump is doing for you. Not that the republicans are good for anything in the first place.
noharleyyet
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Good plan...please stick with it.
JWP58
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Well I'd never brag about being a socialist, I guess some folks just have different points of view. Some like the government stealing from some and giving to lazy folks that don't provide anything for society....some dont.
Some like to point out senseless things, some dont.
Some of us hate to see the rich and multi-billion dollar corporations getting all the breaks at the expense of us working stiffs.
noharleyyet
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Harry feels your pain....
Washington Hunter
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Exactly. They haven't been good for anything, they let Obama have everything he wanted. That's why we now have Trump as our nominee. Hopefully this country can be turned around.
jryoung
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Define "everything" in the context of proposed gun laws?
I don't think they Dems are far behind in their Trump moment, you can see it with Bernie. More and more voters don't fit into the establishments boxes anymore.
JoseCuervo
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They don't want the issue to be clouded by facts.
Trump supporters don't care that he has no substance in his agenda. Just the fact that he says "I'm the best" is good enough for them.
grizzly_
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Let's look at the falling wages since Obama took office. We'll stick to the facts and see how many of us are better off today than in 2008 as a byproduct of this allegedly great recovery...
Here is the world as I see it... Obama has been a failed President economically and in international affairs. But the Republicans have had either the Presidency or both houses of Congress for something like 28 of the last 32 years, does anybody think they've done an excellent job either?
Both parties are ruining our country.
A friend of mine who emigrated here from Rhodesia and got US citizenship may have said it best when he asked, "Would the country have been better off if the last plane had hit the Capitol Building on 9/11?" Certainly, he didn't mean it should have happened; but the question as to whether starting over with all new political leaders would be ultimately beneficial, I think, is a fair one.
Here is the world as I see it... Obama has been a failed President economically and in international affairs. But the Republicans have had either the Presidency or both houses of Congress for something like 28 of the last 32 years, does anybody think they've done an excellent job either?
Both parties are ruining our country.
A friend of mine who emigrated here from Rhodesia and got US citizenship may have said it best when he asked, "Would the country have been better off if the last plane had hit the Capitol Building on 9/11?" Certainly, he didn't mean it should have happened; but the question as to whether starting over with all new political leaders would be ultimately beneficial, I think, is a fair one.
