Commercial Use Permits - Time for States to Step Up?

[TOGIE]

I appreciate that you have used the term "has got to be." That indicates that you don't know for sure or you are making some assumption that such is the case. It is an assumption I think most people attach to if they aren't familiar with the business models of creating digital content.

i absolutely was making assumptions, and i don't actually know. you're explanations were very helpful and interesting. especially if we think of the whole dollar value as a pie chart.

the total "volume" of the pie chart, if you will ,probably isn't changing much, rather, it shifts around between digital, print, tv, etc.

but in the end, i kinda come back to the same conclusion: if one's content is being utilized to help bring in endorsements, sell merch OR generate views, likes, comments and boost ones personal feeling of worth and may help serve the end goal of merch and income, regardless of income it seems to be too much.

at the rate of proliferation of content it seems to be a devaluing of wildlife.


and so maybe i've come full circle to just maybe being a tired re run of matt rinellas ranting.


so regardless of what the total dollar value of this sort of digital hutning economy is, does it seem there should be any validity to the idea of state based commercial take permits?

with the level of digital exploitation that seems to be going on across the social media outlets, regardless of what kind of revenue streams people may be getting from it, it seems that the dollar value of wildlife is too low. if people want to digitally exploit them for personal gain, whether it ego or dollars, extra price needs to be paid.

it's an odd socialist pipe dream maybe.

 

[Big Fin]

so regardless of what the total dollar value of this sort of digital hunting economy is, does it seem there should be any validity to the idea of state based commercial take permits?

I think that's a good question. And I think content creators better pull their collective heads out of their collective asses and ask themselves that same question.

Are we who produce content giving back more than we are benefiting? That is a subjective question that will have a different answer no matter who it is asked of, but if the general public thinks we aren't, then they will take steps accordingly.

I don't think you just cooked this up as some crazy idea while driving down the road. Suggestions such as yours, and other ideas floated around are the result of frustration that more is being taken than is being given back. And as long as that is the path we are headed down, I don't expect a lot of sympathy from the rank and file hunter. I also expect ideas like yours to proliferate, not subside.

Whatever the solutions the hunting community comes up with, I will accept it. I can run my part of it how I think is helpful, making my share of mistakes along the way. But, I'm not going to come to the defense of asswipes like Muley Freak or Nugent or Bowmar or (insert ass clown here).

Back when the Wildgame Innovations dude poached the Wyoming elk, I made a heated FB post and tagged the network, calling them out for allowing such. I got a call from the President of OSG asking me why I would do that. Suffice to say, it wasn't a call of pleasantries and I was dumbfounded how little he understood about the impacts many of his paid personalities and their behavior was having on the image of hunting. Needless to say, that was my last year on the network.

Point of that being, whatever shitstorm comes to the outdoor media world, whether digital, print, or TV, it is a deserved response for our collective actions. Being aware of that is why I encourage and engage in discussions such as this.

Back to your question - Is it a valid idea? Yup. Is it practical solution in a complex world of today? Probably not.

 

[TOGIE]

i'm still chewing on my thoughts here.

as always @Big Fin your thoughts and willingness to engage in these conversations in the manner you do is a part of why you fall firmly into the bucket of "influencers" whose positives for hunting far outweigh any negatives that come from being in the space. IMO at least.

now that i'm waiting to leave for wyoming in the morning to not be driving i80 at night given the conditions i'm thinking about this again.

like you said, and like matt rinellas says, the best solution is to just not give these people the attention that drives them. don't follow them, don't like their stuff, etc. don't be like them either. i'll admit i just recently followed a bunch of them to keep up with their ridiculous shenanigans so i'm better informed on who to dislike in the hunting space. plus i need content for the "great social media posts" thread. but, i may never post another hunting photo on instagram again. i don't like the idea of it anymore.

but i almost feel like that's the biggest pipe dream of them all. perhaps? i don't know.

maybe it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if instagram and facebook just decided hunting content wouldn't be allowed on their platforms, period. that's not a hashed out thought either, i hate the idea of censoring.

but is there more good than bad being done for our cause with Muley Freaks just popping up left and right like weeds in the digital world?