Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission to meet February 24 in virtual workshop to discuss wolf reintroduction planning

[MTGomer]

Once again, the city people decide the fate of the country people.

I'm not worried, country people know how to take care of the wolf problem....

Colorado never should have legalized weed. This was the downfall of the entire state IMHO....."progressive thinkers" sitting around getting high have swamped them and are now pushing their nonsense agendas.

I don’t think weed is a liberal thing.

See Montana’s red wave and legalization.

 

[Sytes]

I don’t think weed is a liberal thing.

See Montana’s red wave and legalization.

Ballot was pre-red wave. Not saying it's a red or blue... though the ballot was a long work in progress by those commie hippy socialistic Cuban fondu cute wolf lovers...





/eh - humor people...

 

[Jc2020]

I'd like to know if the wolf lovers are footing the bill or are the State's sportspeople being forced to fund it.

If I had to guess I’d say it’s us sportsman but don’t know for sure

 

[TOGIE]

I'd like to know if the wolf lovers are footing the bill or are the State's sportspeople being forced to fund it.

it will basically be funded by cpw and we all know how cpw is mostly funded....

all you NR OTC elk hunters out there, thank you for footing this bill

 

[COEngineer]

I'd like to know if the wolf lovers are footing the bill or are the State's sportspeople being forced to fund it.

Currently, CPW (i.e. hunting and fishing license revenue, mostly non-res elk hunters) are footing the bill. There is a bill in the CO legislature right now to transfer the monetary cost of re-introduction to the general fund (State tax dollars). HB 21-1040, if you want to look into it and call your elected officials.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Currently, CPW (i.e. hunting and fishing license revenue, mostly non-res elk hunters) are footing the bill. There is a bill in the CO legislature right now to transfer the monetary cost of re-introduction to the general fund (State tax dollars). HB 21-1040, if you want to look into it and call your elected officials.

Also the cost of livestock damage.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

I'll fill in for wllm - "OK, Boomer"

/End Sarcasm

FWIW - I agree prop 114 was nonsense. I can't make the mental leap that hippy lettuce had anything whatsoever to do with it.

My daughter works in the MJ industry (so do several ex-colleagues and friends, some @ quite Senior levels) - trust me - they aren't "sitting around getting high". There is substantial innovation in transactional controls and supply chain systems that are springing out from that industry that are ahead of 'traditional' industries.

@Mallardsx2, it's legal in a pile of states now, even more have some sort of medical provision, and in all but Idaho it's either legal recreationally/medically or decriminalized.

Honestly dumbest banned substance ever, should have been legalized at the federal level 40 years ago.

Legalization may have catalyzed growth in the state to some degree, but I'm not sure how much.

 

[Zach]

I'll fill in for wllm - "OK, Boomer"

/End Sarcasm

FWIW - I agree prop 114 was nonsense. I can't make the mental leap that hippy lettuce had anything whatsoever to do with it.

My daughter works in the MJ industry (so do several ex-colleagues and friends, some @ quite Senior levels) - trust me - they aren't "sitting around getting high". There is substantial innovation in transactional controls and supply chain systems that are springing out from that industry that are ahead of 'traditional' industries.

There's 2 sides to that coin, not to get off the topic at hand, but plenty of folks who sit around getting high. I'm fully for medicinal, but there are still plenty of folks just getting stoned.

I was just down in Abq for work last week. My jobsite was a popular chicken sandwich joint. I'd estimate 1/10 of the drive thru vehicles were busy partaking while waiting in line.

 

[WapitiBob]

My daughter worked in a local liquor store for a few years. “Pot heads” got nothin on your functional alcoholic neighbors and co workers.

 

[Dsnow9]

There is a time and a place for it, just like alcohol it is illegal to smoke and drive. Being a business owner where my staff puts their life on the line every day, 80 feet in a tree with a chainsaw.... If I had to pick an employee that smoked weed every night after work or an employee that got drunk, I would take the weed person 200 percent of the time.

 

[Sytes]

Pot wack job, naive city folk push a wuf lubber ballot through. What does this equate to for Colorado?



Side note: Agree. I'd rather deal with a bong-holio who will tell me all the stupid illegal shit he did versus an alcohol infused liquid courage wrapped angry -tard.

 

[TheJason]

There's 2 sides to that coin, not to get off the topic at hand, but plenty of folks who sit around getting high. I'm fully for medicinal, but there are still plenty of folks just getting stoned.

I was just down in Abq for work last week. My jobsite was a popular chicken sandwich joint. I'd estimate 1/10 of the drive thru vehicles were busy partaking while waiting in line.

Is that different from doing shots of Jack Daniels?

 

[TheJason]

Pot wack job, naive city folk push a wuf lubber ballot through. What does this equate to for Colorado?

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Side note: Agree. I'd rather deal with a bong-holio who will tell me all the stupid illegal shit he did versus an alcohol infused liquid courage wrapped angry -tard.

Huh?????

 

[Sytes]

Huh?????

Taking the humor of the diverted alcohol / pot topic and returning the Colorado wolf issue to the thread... all in one fancy meme.

 

[TheJason]

I'm not worried, country people know how to take care of the wolf problem....

If this is the case, why are folks in Montana, Wyoming and Idaho whining about having too many? And needing bounties socialist assistance co-op funding to motivate folks to go trap and hunt them?

Better yet, we could hire the government to poison and aerial hunt them. Although, the crews might be busy taking care of the grass vermin elk in Montana.

And last but not least, make sure you have an absolute dead nuts count on wolves instead of using government coverup numbers minimum population estimates. Then, we’ll make sure our harvest quotas are high enough that we’ll still watch them go unmet every year.

Good luck country people. Go forth and kill.

 

[Sytes]

If this is the case, why are folks in Montana, Wyoming and Idaho concerned about having too many? And Idaho values supporting their trappers assisting the quota via co-op funding to support expenses incurred for successful trappers?

Better yet, we could hire the government to do their job and create reasonable apex predator quotas based on quality counts - but first they have to get a reasonable EMP in action to understand a reasonable district quota for elk and wolves. Although, the crews might be busy taking care of the landowners elk in Montana.

And last but not least, make sure you have reasonable count on wolves instead of using minimum count number to set quotas Then, we might begin to see a quality start to managing the portion dealing with predator / prey aspect within the mix of other aspects hindering elk.

Good luck conservationists people. Go forth and support our wildlife.

Fixed it for ya.

 

[TheJason]

Fixed it for ya.

You fixed nothing.

How much money does the government need to spend on Wolf counts? And for what? So they can have a higher quota that hunters don’t fill?

If Idahoans want bounties, great. I don’t support them one bit. Why don’t we just have bounties on cow elk in the Crazies?

What is a reasonable count? One you agree with? The only way to get highly accurate count data is mark and recapture, which for wolves would be incredibly expensive, aka pissing money down the drain. Good use of resources.

If you want meaningful data on predator prey interactions between wolves and cougars and elk and deer, there would be a whole bunch of gps collars going on animals and some serious data taken on mortality, migration, overlap, compensatory vs additive predation, calf/fawn survival, etc. Thats hard to do when you’re pissing away the money on a mark and recapture effort.

You’re spending money on bandaids for arterial bleeding, but whatever makes you feel good.

 

[marksjeep]

Hurry up offense.

https://coloradosun.com/2021/02/24/colorado-gray-wold-reintroduction-plan-cpw/

 

[Mallardsx2]

The Colorado CPW knows that this is a bad idea and I believe they know what the introduction of wolves will likely do to their game populations....they are going to slow play this and drag it out as long as they can. I dont blame them. I just hope the truck carrying the wolves gets lose and ends up in western California.

 

[Zach]

Is that different from doing shots of Jack Daniels?

Abuse is abuse, regardless of implement. I'm sure there are functioning abusers of both.

Personally, I've seen more issues from MJ than alcohol and my father was an alcoholic when I was a child.

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