Bozeman: is it really that bad anymore?

[The Hedgehog]

Always get a chuckle when people call it Bozangeles. Gotta wonder how many saying that have spent time in Los Angeles. Try it.

Traffic, assholes, crowded? Haha.

 

[Hem]

Always get a chuckle when people call it Bozangeles. Gotta wonder how many saying that have spent time in Los Angeles. Try it.

Traffic, assholes, crowded? Haha.

Does the airport count?

 

[Ought Six]

I have been watching this thread from its beginning wondering how the “tone“ would go. Unfortunately it has degraded to match the very topic it hoped to expose.

I did not want to get involved on this topic but due to the last couple of pages of complete $&*! posts, I felt I needed to weigh in. Probably more for me than any of you reading this.

Here goes:
1. I live in Bozeman, have for over 35 years.
2. Met my wife and married her, still married to her for over 35 years.
3. Went to college in Bozeman. Go Cats!
4. Raised two boys in Bozeman. Now strong young men protecting our country from enemies we don’t know.
5. Both of my sons attended MSU.
6. My wife was born in Bozeman.
7. My family protects the highways in and around Bozeman/Missoula.
8. Work for a local company for the last 35 years, in Downtown Bozeman. (don't preach to me about parking)
9. Blood, sweat and tears to buy our first home in Bozeman, now on our 4th and last home.(probably won’t be able to afford the next one)
10. I have buried a few friends in Bozeman.
11. I was at ground zero when the blast hit downtown Bozeman.
12. I have some very wonderful friends in Bozeman. (Not many left but still a small group of solid good, salt of the earth people)
13. I would meet friends at the Bungalow Drug store and enjoy catching up, in Bozeman.
14. Chased Elk behind the Triple Tree Ranch. Bluff charged by the biggest black bear I have ever seen.
15. Chased some Monster Mule Deer Bucks above the tree line in the Bridgers.
16. I miss the Powder Horn with George & the boys.
17. I remember when Huffine was two lanes AND was gravel.
18. 19th street stopped at Durston and turned into a field
…….etc.

I could keep going but I think that my point has been made. Bozeman is my home of choice, for now.

I don’t like some of the changes that have happened but realize that cause and effect is always at work. The pendulum has swung so far to the left in Bozeman that it feels stuck. Other days it can seem as if it is moving back…but never quite gets going.

Yes, the traffic sucks! Yes, the road rage is ridiculous! Yes, the entitlement attitude of our new residents is exhausting! Yes, the hunting sucks for a 100 mile radius around Bozeman compared to earlier times! Yes, with every subdivision added there is a push for the “new“residents to make this place just like the place they fled! Yes, my own sons will never be able to afford to come back and live in their home town! Yes, all the tax rumors are true, through the roof.

We choose to keep living here for the friends, family, coworkers & neighbors, what little are left. We choose to live here for the beauty unique only to Bozeman. We keep choosing to live here in hopes to see the pendulum start to move the other direction…because it always does, eventually….God willing.

It feels like forever that the winds of change have been blowing hot and dry in our face for the last few years here in Bozeman. We long for a shift in the wind to the back like a cool, mountain thermal coming up from the valley floor….maybe….someday.

To each their own I guess. Sounds miserable

 

[Raisin Bran]

To each their own I guess. Sounds miserable

Short sidedness is curable…..you should probably get that looked at!

 

[mtmuley]

I have been watching this thread from its beginning wondering how the “tone“ would go. Unfortunately it has degraded to match the very topic it hoped to expose.

I did not want to get involved on this topic but due to the last couple of pages of complete $&*! posts, I felt I needed to weigh in. Probably more for me than any of you reading this.

Here goes:
1. I live in Bozeman, have for over 35 years.
2. Met my wife and married her, still married to her for over 35 years.
3. Went to college in Bozeman. Go Cats!
4. Raised two boys in Bozeman. Now strong young men protecting our country from enemies we don’t know.
5. Both of my sons attended MSU.
6. My wife was born in Bozeman.
7. My family protects the highways in and around Bozeman/Missoula.
8. Work for a local company for the last 35 years, in Downtown Bozeman. (don't preach to me about parking)
9. Blood, sweat and tears to buy our first home in Bozeman, now on our 4th and last home.(probably won’t be able to afford the next one)
10. I have buried a few friends in Bozeman.
11. I was at ground zero when the blast hit downtown Bozeman.
12. I have some very wonderful friends in Bozeman. (Not many left but still a small group of solid good, salt of the earth people)
13. I would meet friends at the Bungalow Drug store and enjoy catching up, in Bozeman.
14. Chased Elk behind the Triple Tree Ranch. Bluff charged by the biggest black bear I have ever seen.
15. Chased some Monster Mule Deer Bucks above the tree line in the Bridgers.
16. I miss the Powder Horn with George & the boys.
17. I remember when Huffine was two lanes AND was gravel.
18. 19th street stopped at Durston and turned into a field
…….etc.

I could keep going but I think that my point has been made. Bozeman is my home of choice, for now.

I don’t like some of the changes that have happened but realize that cause and effect is always at work. The pendulum has swung so far to the left in Bozeman that it feels stuck. Other days it can seem as if it is moving back…but never quite gets going.

Yes, the traffic sucks! Yes, the road rage is ridiculous! Yes, the entitlement attitude of our new residents is exhausting! Yes, the hunting sucks for a 100 mile radius around Bozeman compared to earlier times! Yes, with every subdivision added there is a push for the “new“residents to make this place just like the place they fled! Yes, my own sons will never be able to afford to come back and live in their home town! Yes, all the tax rumors are true, through the roof.

We choose to keep living here for the friends, family, coworkers & neighbors, what little are left. We choose to live here for the beauty unique only to Bozeman. We keep choosing to live here in hopes to see the pendulum start to move the other direction…because it always does, eventually….God willing.

It feels like forever that the winds of change have been blowing hot and dry in our face for the last few years here in Bozeman. We long for a shift in the wind to the back like a cool, mountain thermal coming up from the valley floor….maybe….someday.

Change the name of the area and that about sums up my experience where I grew up and still live. mtmuley

 

[Drake4]

Always get a chuckle when people call it Bozangeles. Gotta wonder how many saying that have spent time in Los Angeles. Try it.

Traffic, assholes, crowded? Haha.

But there's 3 stoplights on Huffine now!

 

[noharleyyet]

Wife and I spent Saturday in DFW freeway traffic, a 70mph mass of vehicles and those who maneuver thru it at 85...with no views.

 

[DouglasR]

Just watched the first couple episodes of Yellowstone.
Do you guys think I look like Rip?

 

[noharleyyet]

Just watched the first couple episodes of Yellowstone.
Do you guys think I look like Rip?

 

[KilZdonk]

I think its Hilarious all Montanans talk more crap about those from Bozeman now than Butte

 

[Nameless Range]

I think its Hilarious all Montanans talk more crap about those from Bozeman now than Butte

Butte is Montana's last great "city". The only one whose essence hasn't yet been plowed under. The only one that still feels like the Montana of my youth.

Had a Chicken Fried Steak there last Saturday - Sparky's Garage.

 

[Gerald Martin]

Butte is Montana's last great "city". The only one whose essence hasn't yet been plowed under. The only one that still feels like the Montana of my youth.

Had a Chicken Fried Steak there last Saturday - Sparky's Garage.

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Go to Butte for a chicken fried steak breakfast. Stop by Bozeman for a coffee and kale kombucha on your way to Yellowstone?

 

[Nameless Range]

Go to Butte for a chicken fried steak breakfast. Stop by Bozeman for a coffee and kale kombucha on your way to Yellowstone?

I try to never take I-90 east of Three Forks, but when I do you can bet I acquire Gallatin County's finest Organic Cage Free Certified Humane Farm To Table Locally Non-Slave Created Equal Opportunity Kombucha.

Alright, that was a lie. Most of the time I just stop at The Club Tavern and Grille for a CFS the size of my melon. Then on to Yellowstone where no National Park Service outhouse is safe. Your ̶t̶o̶i̶l̶e̶t̶ ̶p̶a̶p̶e̶r̶ tax dollars at work.

 

[The Hedgehog]

Butte is Montana's last great "city". The only one whose essence hasn't yet been plowed under. The only one that still feels like the Montana of my youth.

Had a Chicken Fried Steak there last Saturday - Sparky's Garage.

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My son may have been your server..

 

[Straight Arrow]

Butte is Montana's last great "city". The only one whose essence hasn't yet been plowed under. The only one that still feels like the Montana of my youth.

Butte, America, the last remnant of real Montana after the state's transition into West Dakota and East Idaho.

 

[BirdManMike]

The Club Tavern and Grille

They have scotch eggs there. Over.

 

[Dust Rider]

Does the airport count?

At least they added a new economy parking lot at the west end toward Dry Creek. Got my cardio in walking to the terminal.

 

[KB_]

Butte, America, the last remnant of real Montana after the state's transition into West Dakota and East Idaho.

Last time I was in butte I watched a meth head get hit by a slow moving car. Then he ran away with his shopping cart.

 

[Dust Rider]

Not sure I understand. Where are the workers going to live? Is Hyundai going to pay them enough to buy million dollar homes in Bozeman? Is Hyundai totally unaware of what's going on? Mind boggling. Somebody please explain.

There is a lot of new housing development on the south side west of 19th and south of Stucky. These properties are being bought, designed, developed and kept in ownership by the companies. The company’s then lease, and rent to the new employees. Hyundai has already purchased and developed employee housing. The new automated car company Aurora,
has been building employee housing as well. These are a mix of townhomes, single family and condo style. Very mixed use to suit needs of different employees. Billings Clinic is about to start building employee housing on its campus, as well as Bozeman Health purchasing land in Belgrade for employes.
Any new tech company or large scale employer is following suit. It is the only way to provide attainable housing for its employees In the current Bozeman real estate market. The bulk of this has and keeps growing on the south end of town.
And only skiing 30 days….

 

[Straight Arrow]

Last time I was in butte I watched a meth head get hit by a slow moving car. Then he ran away with his shopping cart.

Yep, just like in any other city, 'Merica.

BTW, the shopping car belongs to Walmart.