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Black powder substitutes?

Yeah, I don't order powder shipped.
With black powder being listed as an actual explosive, shipping hazmat is often more expensive than the powder itself.
You really should look into it. You may be surprised. Or go in with other people and split the shipping. So many different ways to get it done.
 
I have seen some guys on line that do. One guy has some pretty decent stuff from what I have seen of his targets. But if buying it is too expensive or troublesome making it is 10 times more.
 
I use triple 7, Blackhorn would be nice but way too expensive for me.
it absolutely ridiculous how expensive it has become and the are coming in smaller containers too. once I use up my BH ill move to something else... I have some 777 that I haven't given a fair shake yet.
 
I'm surprised someone has come out with a similar product to BH. I wonder if it is protected with patent laws? If so time has to be running out on that. Bh209 is amazing but price per ounce is truly criminal.
 
Pretty sure the Shooters World Multi-Purpose Black is the same product. I've seen it on the shelf at Scheels fairly regularly and also stocked by most of the reputable internet sellers.
Just picked some. But only found fffg instead of ffg. Measure the weight and it's not the same. The 2f is 86 grains per 100 weight to volume and this 3f is 81. I guess I'm going to have some fun experiments at the range. Btw I measure everything 3 times to make sure. And I have reload smokeless for decades. Like I said, it should be fun.
 
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