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Big-game hunters have five more days to wait for results of their special license lottery picks, but the odds have changed in several parts of western Montana.

Antlerless elk permits have increased in several Region 2 hunting districts around Drummond, Deer Lodge and Garrison, while they’ve dropped dramatically in districts surrounding the Bitterroot Valley and the Lower Clark Fork River.

Antlered and antlerless mule deer permits have been cut by half in those two areas as well.


In northwestern Montana’s Region 1, antlerless elk permit numbers were generally cut in half in large parts of Lincoln and Sanders counties.

The decisions came out of this week’s meeting of the state Fish, Wildlife and Parks Commission. Regional wildlife manager Mike Thompson said the adjustments of permit numbers were made after game surveys showed sharp declines in elk and mule deer populations in some areas but increases in others.

“When we’ve got a declining prey population, we try to look at all the mortality factors and still provide a hunting opportunity for folks,” Thompson said. “Sometimes we don’t have all the answers to point to a single factor.”

In addition to reducing the number of human predators in the field, the FWP commissioners also have increased hunters’ opportunities for mountain lions in affected areas and have proposed a wolf hunting season for this fall. Thompson said the balance of predators and prey is different for each hunting district, making it hard to generalize why elk and deer populations have dropped.

The areas with increases for antlerless elk include:

* Hunting District 210 by Drummond (400 permits up from 300),

* HD 213 around Warm Springs (350 permits up from 150),

* HD 215 west of Deer Lodge (250 permits up from 150),

* HD 215-01 (250 permits up from 100)

* and HD 291 north of Garrison (300 permits up from 100).

Most of those hunting districts are dominated by private land, so hunters must seek landowner permission in addition to winning a permit.

Antlered mule deer permits were cut in HD 202-50 west of St. Regis and HD 270 east of Darby.

Antlerless mule deer permits were reduced in HD 204 northeast of Stevensville, HD 261-01 west of Hamilton, and HD 270.

Special license permit results will be announced Monday.
 
Just a side note, the mule deer permits in 202 were cut back due to a bad buck to doe ratio, not a poor population.
 
I really can't understand FWP's thought process on the 'trophy' muley permits in the state. They manage them so almost half the bucks get taken out every year. There's no way they can sustain good numbers of older deer with management like that. Glad to see the tag numbers go down, even if it is for the wrong reasons.
 
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Randy...

By no means am I making an attack on you, just an FYI...

These are the places to learn how their thought processes work and to jump their case if they don't make sense...

MT FWP Meeting
 
Actually ELKCHSR that is NOT the place to make your comment or jump FWP's case. I have made more then one trip to Helena and if you are waiting until the final on any tentative you are miles behind. You need to be involved before a issue even becomes a tentative, or at least comment before its final vote before the commission, I have never seen ONE change by the commission when its the final.
 
Thanks tjones...

I've been corrected...

Now where would he start to make that difference...

It's nice that you can make a great post and show some one is mistaken, you also need to give the right answer and get them going in the right direction...
 
I used to love hunting and fishing Montana with a very good friend who is now in Wolf Point....even joined and belonged to MWF for years.....when outfitters, cattlemens assoc, rich folks from CA closed all the places we hunted for speed goats, muleys, whitetail, pheasant, Sharptail and Merriams unless you paid a fee and made drawings for wealthy only, this NR quit y'all.....but I love the state and wish you well.....don't hurt any wolves! They are our friendly neighbors!
 

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