I didn’t say that. It sounded like you were insinuating that the revenue was being used directly on habitat. I don’t support the privatization of wildlife through programs like this, whether for incentivizing the protection of wildlife habitat on private lands or for any other purpose.
Big bucks for big bucks.
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The_Yuki_Yama
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Did you read the article? It directly references what they've seen in NM
The_Yuki_Yama
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More landowners would buy tags if they could sell them, and those that buy them would likely have higher harvest rate, so habitat would have to increase quite a lot to leave general draw/public land opportunity the same, which I don't believe would be the case.
Seems the more likely scenario is more tags/harvest goes to landowners paying customers, and less for those trying to draw fewer remaining tags in a non landowner draw. I suppose this is why although not technically privatizing wildlife, it effectively does and I'd expect to generally see opposition here.
Seems the more likely scenario is more tags/harvest goes to landowners paying customers, and less for those trying to draw fewer remaining tags in a non landowner draw. I suppose this is why although not technically privatizing wildlife, it effectively does and I'd expect to generally see opposition here.
Benfromalbuquerque
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38% here in NM as noted in the article and I’m confident Brandon is already analyzing last year’s spreadsheets over that. You people thought this couldn’t happen to you? The NM model of privatized public resource is a real gem of corrupt western wildlife management. Once the Wyoming commission gets this hurdle cleared then they can move for ranch only and unit wide tags.
Yet don’t forget pronghorn! Unlimited private tags, all NM landowners thereby could get trespass fees. Not to be confused with OTC because NM public land antelope has no OTC. IT’s draw only for public!
Yet don’t forget pronghorn! Unlimited private tags, all NM landowners thereby could get trespass fees. Not to be confused with OTC because NM public land antelope has no OTC. IT’s draw only for public!
SFC B
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Look what goes on in CO in the name of "access" with RFW.....public gets half-assed, very restricted, worst time frame access......landowners get a LOT of tags, get to set their own seasons for usage and make big $$$$$ respectively. All of this ON TOP of tags outside of RFW that are "private land only" 
ismith
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JM77
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This bill has bigtime opposition. It's not going anywhere.
seeth07
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You are a passionate sheep guy so let me ask you this:
Domestics are a large threat in their habitat. What if a lessee could chose between having a transferable and sellable sheep tag or have his domestics on the mountain for the summer?
Sometimes what is best for the habitat and the best for declining animals like sheep and mule deer calls for outside incentives and ideas.
Again, this Bill isn't it.
I suspect you’re right. It will be interesting to watch the process unfold.
The Wyoming Freedom Caucus seems to get their way in Wyoming but I hope you're right.
"A dozen Republican members of the Legislature lined up behind the idea, most associated with the hard-line Wyoming Freedom Caucus and its Wyoming Senate allies."
I already answered that question above.
What if the federal agencies followed regulation, policy, and LUPs and made grazing privilege decisions based on suitability and sustainability, rather than treating grazing like a God-given right passed from generation to generation?
Nick87
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Wtf
seeth07
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Ok, but how about if the land is privately owned? Where their private property rights allow them to graze domestic sheep as they please?
Transferable big game tags? No, wouldn't consider it for a minute.
The mechanism for solving this problem already exists, and it's called a conservation easement.
seeth07
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Its a fools move to say everything is off the table and it's silly to not even listen out of pure stubbornness.
There is a deal that exists involving transferable big game tags and putting more sheep on the mountain that you would absolutely take. May be a crazy deal that never gets brought into any sort of formulated plan but I refuse to believe that you would turn down all offers out of stubborness.
This issue, more than any other I see discussed on HT, elicits an emotional response rather than a logical one.
WyoCoalMiner
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The transferrable tag already exists in damn near every western state. Comms, Govs, raffles, auctions are simply transferable tags. It appears to be what the generated revenue is used for that is the rub.
Good points. My observation is that in general, the thought of one group of people getting something that others may not seems to cause great emotional distress. It’s understandable why this is a hot-button issue.
