If you can't kill an elk, ANY elk with a .270, you should stay under the porch. mtmuleyI'm going to put this out there for last of the Mohicans. Like someone else said talking about elk there is a big difference between a cow elk and a bull elk only about 300 to 400 more pounds of bone and muscle for a bullet too rip through on a bull. 130 -150 grain is very light for a mature bull elk. I want you to think about this... and I wish to god that I would've thought about this myself a few years ago. When you see the pros on T.V. doing there thing taking an elk how many you see using a 270?????? That's right a very, very low percentage. They always use a 160 grain and heavier most use 180 -200 grains and most use a 30 caliber .308, 300 win mag etc. You think they might know something or just like me they been there and done that and never again. If that doesn't make the light bulb come on then I don't know what else to say. IF you don't like the recoil of the 300 mag get a muzzle break or a use a nice butt pad. I never used a 30 cal. because I was afraid of the recoil but a nice pad on the stock took care of that and its not bad at all to shoot. I was like what the hell was I thinking should've done that a long time ago.