ATVers lose again...

[BuzzH]

As usual, the atvers find themselves restricted more, I wonder why?????

BLM plan to restrict ORV travel
By ALLISON BATDORFF
Gazette Wyoming Bureau

CODY, Wyo. - Off-road vehicles in the rugged badlands of the McCullough Peaks will be limited to "designated roads and trails" this summer, as set out by the McCullough Peaks Travel Plan released Tuesday by the Bureau of Land Management.

According to the document, ORV use in the area is increasing, and managing the traffic is necessary to protect resources, promote safety and strike a balance between the recreation, ranching and utility interests that use the land.

The plan encompasses almost 120,000 acres of BLM and private property and includes the McCullough Peaks Wilderness Study Area (23,000 acres), the McCullough Wild Horse Management Area (110,000 acres) and 10,000 acres of private land.


ORV drivers have trespassed on private land, according to the report, and traffic counters were placed at key access points in March 2002.

Under the McCullough Peaks Travel Management Plan, the area's 333 miles of roads and trails have been broken down into four categories: 239 miles will be open to all motorized traffic; 21 miles will be for ATV and nonmotorized use only; 30 miles are designated only for administrative use, and 60 miles of road will be closed.

In the Wild Horse Management Area, other roads may be closed in the future during the foaling periods from March 1 to July 15.

Set in motion after a well-attended open house last Aug. 26, the proposal has garnered 28 comments, according to an environmental assessment performed on the area.

"Overall, the comments were supportive of the plan and provided some suggestions for on-the-ground implementation," said the report. "Others expressed opposition to any ORV designations or limitations to travel by motorized vehicles."

The plan is now subject to a 30-day review and comment period before it goes into effect. Public comments can be submitted by May 31 to BLM Outdoor Recreation Specialist Stephanie Sironen, BLM Cody Field Office, P.O. Box 518, Cody WY 82414-0518; or by e-mailing: cody_wymail@ blm.gov.

Copies of the McCullough Peaks Travel Plan and ORV Routes and the EA can be found in the BLM's Cody Field Office, at all Bighorn Basin libraries or downloaded at www.wy.blm.gov/cyfo.


Copyright © The Billings Gazette, a division of Lee Enterprises.

 

[Washington Hunter]

Sure doesn't sound like they're restricting ATV's very much. Out of 333 miles of roads, ATV's will be allowed on 260 miles. Of course they have to stay on the roads and some may whine about that, but that's only common sense anyway, and we shouldn't need laws to keep motorized vehicles on the roads.

 

[Ithaca 37]

Every little bit helps. If I were a member of the Blue Ribbon Coalition I'd wonder what good my dues were doing! They sure aren't getting more areas open to ATVs. All they're doing is losing ground!

 

[Washington Hunter]

Ithaca, just curious...do you know if the Blue Ribbon Coalition supports off road travel by ATV's on public land? If they do I'm not sure why anybody would want to be a member, at least anybody who is a hunter and cares about wildlife.

 

[Hangar18]

If I were a member of the Blue Ribbon Coalition I'd wonder what good my dues were doing! They sure aren't getting more areas open to ATVs. All they're doing is losing ground!

I don't wonder at all where my dues are going. In fact, am quite pleased with the uses my dues are being put to. In fact, I think I am going to send them another $25 this week. Now if only two separate groups of individuals would pony up some dues to the BRC, some real headway could be made.

The first group are the uneducated numbnut few that are causing problems for the rest of the motorized users. These assholes are too stupid to realize that they are most likely riding an area for the last time directly due to their irresponsibility. I make no bones about my disdain for these people, because I practice the conservation and etiquette taught to me by my father, because my practice was rewarded with the ability to use his stuff.

The second group would include those people that feel completely inclined to blame an organization for the ills of the above named assholes. This organization does nothing but promote responsible motorized use on public lands and try to keep them open for this responsible use. In short, this group is asking this organization to take responsibility for people's actions, that have no idea of this organization's existance. This is like blaming McDonalds for making people fat. It is a sad and tired arguement that holds nothing but what's left of a wet fart. How about these individuals join the BRC so they can have a direct and positive impact on what is done. No, they won't do that. They would rather sit on the side lines and piss and moan.

This is how you do it in case you are are still reading. Last year we snowmobilers needed to attend a public meeting about a possible closure. One local club chose not to attend because they were electing officers that night. That made me so angry, I paid my $20 to the club, then had a conversation with the president about their club's apathy. I am guessing they won't be sending me a renewal notice. I am also guessing they might think twice about their priorities next time.

I am sick and tired of fat-asses (the proper term is dumbasses btw, because it's the brain steering the ATV) and the BRC getting mentioned in the same sentence. If you even had part of a clue, you would know how disingenuous that is.

 

[Hangar18]

Originally posted by WH:
Ithaca, just curious...do you know if the Blue Ribbon Coalition supports off road travel by ATV's on public land? If they do I'm not sure why anybody would want to be a member, at least anybody who is a hunter and cares about wildlife.

WH - Click here: BLUERIBBON COALITION OFFICIAL ORGANIZATIONAL POLICIES AND POSITIONS

In there you will find nothing of which you speak. In fact, you will find quite the opposite. Something the anti-ATV prophets choose to ignore.

 

[Ithaca 37]

I hate to hafta bring up some of this info, but here goes. Having known Clark Collins (BRC Founder)since about 1988, I've always been suspicious of his agenda. Back in the early days he wasn't as sly about covering it up.

Here's a little info on his funding:

http://www.commondreams.org/news2000/0620-06.htm

Here's Clark blaming hunters for ATV abuse:

"The ATV users primarily responsible for these problems are hunters, say Clark Collin, executive director of the Blue Ribbon Coalition, and Russ Enis,..."

http://www.emagazine.com/may-june_2000/0500curr_atv.html

Here's a great article on Clark's ties to the wacko Wise Use Movement!! (I love this one!)

"The lobbyists, promoters, flacks and "leaders" were industry supporters like Gottlieb and Arnold with CDFE; Cushman's National Inholders Association; Clark Collins' Blue Ribbon Coalition; James Watt's Mountain States Legal Foundation;....."

http://nwcitizen.us/publicgood/reports/wuinps/preface.htm


The BRC is affiliated with the Wise Use Movement, as are:Movements and groups:
CHRISTIAN IDENTITY
ARYAN NATIONS
SCRIPTURES FOR AMERICA
JUBILEE
THE ORDER
KU KLUX KLAN
CHRISTIAN PATRIOTS
POLICE AGAINST THE NEW WORLD ORDER
S.P.I.K.E.
STATE CITIZENSHIP SOVEREIGNTY
CHRISTIAN RIGHT
FREE MILITIA OF WISCONSIN
U.S. TAXPAYERS PARTY
GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA
CHRISTIAN RE-CONSTRUCTIONISTS
OPERATION RESCUE
RESCUE AMERICA


Read this!!!

BRC was co-founded in 1987 by snowmobiler and anti-wilderness activist Darryl Harris and trail biker Clark Collins.
The BRC motto is "Preserving our natural resources FOR the public, instead of FROM the public."
In its early years, BRC boasted about "organizing support" for: 1. logging road construction by the Forest Service; 2. oil exploration in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge; 3. protection of the Mining Act; and 4. Continuation of the present grazing formula. (The Wise Use Movement: Strategic Analysis & Fifty State Review, 1993)
BRC now claims to represents over 800 businesses and organizations with 600,000 members made up of "motorized recreationists, equestrians, and resource users." (Don Amador, BRC, comments on Forest Serving Planning Regulations, January 31, 2000 and Adena Cook, letter to Mike Dombeck, December 20, 1999)

http://www.clearproject.org/reports_br.html

"BlueRibbon Coalition Advisory Board consists of Japanese Corporations head CEOs. Will they have multiple use, private enterprise and private property for Americans in mind? It doesn't appear to be so with their endorsing such schemes as the Greenway Programs.

BlueRibbon Coalition has done some good things in their advocating for multiple use, such as attending the "Wild Sky Wilderness Festival wearing T-shirts displaying protest signs with such slogans as: "Not Wild Sky, Wild Sky Costs Too Much, Wilderness = Land of No Use." They have taken court actions for the benefit of multiple use and have in many cases been the underdog." What I would strongly recommend to BlueRibbon Coalition is to please stop endorsing Greenways and other such property lockup schemes that would end the enjoyment of private property and private enterprises.

BlueRibbon Coalition, please investigate deeper into these schemes of Greenway Projects and Wilderness before endorsing them on your web pages, while cheering for multiple use and advocating for the very programs that are destroying multiple use, private enterprises and private property...."

http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/2004/articles/is_it_wise_use.htm

"WISE USE LEADERS--One of the leading spokespersons for
the wise use movement is Grant Gerber of Elko Nevada,
founder of the Wilderness Impact Research Foundation
(WIRF). The Foundation is dedicated to "educating the
public about the damage wilderness causes society, the
economy and even wildlife." Another major spokesperson
for the movement is Ron Arnold of the Center for the
Defense of Free Enterprise (Bellvue, Washington). Chief
Robertson spoke in July at the Multiple Use Sustained
Yield Commemorative Conference sponsored by the Center
on the campus of Hocking Technical College in
Nelsonville, Ohio.

THE BLUE RIBBON COALITION--An umbrella group over much
of the movement is the Idaho-based Blue Ribbon Coalition
(Henry Yake, president), which distributes the Blue
Ribbon newsletter to 63 business, industry, and
recreation groups.........."

http://www.fs.fed.us/eco/eco-watch/ew901203

Here's some more of the groups BRC is tied to

http://pbisotopes.ess.sunysb.edu/classes/oldclasses/cei542/Links/wiseuse.htm

No one should doubt the BRC is a big part of the Wise Use crowd. Here's a little more about the Wise Use boys and girls! This is terrific:

http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/wiseuse.html

And more!

http://www.eskimo.com/~rarnold/wiseuse.htm

Did I mention this site?

http://www.cat.org.au/a4a/fake8.html

600,000 members!!!

Some of these organizations claim large memberships, such as the Blue Ribbon Coalition here in Pocatello which claims 600,000 members. They arrive at this astonishing figure by counting as members the members of all their affiliated organizations. My guess is they have a couple hundred members in the customary sense in which the word "member" is used.

And here's enough links to keep anyone busy for a year reading about the BRC:

http://www.google.com/search?q=wise+use+blue+ribbon+coalition&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&start=10&sa=N

One last site:

http://www.off-road.com/land/ohvlinks.html


I'll be hunting for the next few days. Happy reading!

 

[Hangar18]

Come on IT. You haven't put out anything new. Sorry you took an hour or so to find it.
http://www.huntandlodge.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=31;t=001529

And again, a bunch of leftist conspiracy garbage. There is not one legitimate news source in there.

And this proves the BRC advocates Dumbass ATV rider abuse how? Whoops, it doesn't even address it.

 

[Ithaca 37]

Here's what I believe: I think the BRC just winks at illegal use. They know they can't really advocate getting tough on it because it would be bad for the industry that provides their financial support.

I think if they really wanted to do something about the problem they would propose legislation allowing for more severe penalties. I've been saying that for years. It's not that difficult to do. I've organized groups , myself, that have done it on other issues. All the BRC does is talk.