Anybody Buying Yet? Where’s the Bottom?

[Irishman]

Hilarious. If you think that is what a financial advisor is for, you need a new one. They aren't there for you to rely on them to "Time the market" but instead how to properly invest and diversify

I didn't say that they are there to help you time the market, in fact I said that they can give you good advice based on history. They can give you good long term advice based on what has happened in the past, and based on current taxation laws, and make assumptions about the future. If they actually knew what was going to happen to stocks, then they wouldn't be working.

 

[Rie Bread]

I don't quite understand the roll through it with TSP or 401.

Reality, (IMO/E) pull the stocks into a cash or bond market. Let it drop 20% and buy back in.

Result? You re-enter a market purchasing stocks at 20% below current market value thus, when it returns from the dip, you have 20% increase over those who rode through it.

While many fear the shifting of funds, it buggles my mind why $200k (1 mil retirement) is not a valued win exiting the dip.

So Iv had a rule for a while that when investments make 50% it’s a sell signal. I sell the dollar amount of the gain. 50% more and again the dollar amount.

Iv gotten criticism for this but the defense I have is that I often time have cash to use in down turns that often happen after large up trends.

Currently the position I’m sitting in now, but Iv used some cash to buy strong stocks Iv previously mentioned.

 

[Treeshark]

Fact is, if people pulled their money pre trump liberation day, they would have the ability to buy in at the lost percentage it's at currently.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas.

You keep talking about the past. It’s easy to know the right call looking backwards.

It’s what is going to happen in the future that counts.

 

[Rie Bread]

You keep talking about the past. It’s easy to know the right call looking backwards.

It’s what is going to happen in the future that counts.

Putting your money in stocks that aren’t dropping rocks is a good start

Shoot, buying collectible guns is a pretty sound strategy at this point

 

[Treeshark]

Putting your money in stocks that aren’t dropping rocks is a good start

Always a good strategy there.

The trick is picking the right ones, which is almost as hard as predicting the days they’re going to go up/down. The best bet in my opinion is to eliminate both variables as much as possible.

 

[Sytes]

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas.

You keep talking about the past. It’s easy to know the right call looking backwards.

It’s what is going to happen in the future that counts.

If you didn't see the writing on the wall when trump began his tariff banter, I understand why you are having to look backwards.

 

[Sytes]

Any extreme anti-trump tariff people believe the stock is going to drop? OR... Is this 15-20% the complete destruction of the American economy?

If you believe it's going to drop further... place your $ where your belief is and make some $$$.

 

[seeth07]

The trick is picking the right ones

It really isn't as hard as a lot of people make it often sound. When the market is in "fear mode" you want to look at reliable stocks. So with the market right now and this day in age stocks like Tesla, Amazon, Walmart, Apple, etc come to mind. You can buy them cheaper right now with little risk ahead knowing they will rebound at some point.

When the market is in greed mode, that is when you search for Billy Bob Joe martins shoe stock at $.50 cent per and try to hit the jackpot.

 

[brymoore]

Any extreme anti-trump tariff people believe the stock is going to drop? OR... Is this 15-20% the complete destruction of the American economy?

If you believe it's going to drop further... place your $ where your belief is and make some $$$.

I’m 100% anti-tariff but it has nothing to do with your question. You’re trying to say if I believe in A then I can predict B.

You’re dismissing all the other elements that might make stocks rise or fall.

There are zero economist who would make a stock market drop prediction for you.

The only stock prediction I make is that the S&P 500 has a 9.8% return since inception. If you’re invested long term in the S&P 500, your return might be similar.

Go DM Jim Cramer your question.

 

[Sytes]

My funds held in cash and bonds currently placed back into the C and S funds after it has dropped 15-20%...

Aside from a great depression with comanies disappearing, I WILL make 15-20% more than someone who kept the status quo C and S funds.

Fact.

 

[ismith]

Poor folks are finally watching the rich folks “pay their fair share”, even if it’s only paper losses.

 

[Rie Bread]

Always a good strategy there.

The trick is picking the right ones, which is almost as hard as predicting the days they’re going to go up/down. The best bet in my opinion is to eliminate both variables as much as possible.

It’s not. Look at the past two weeks and see. All solid companies with positive cash flow

 

[cgasner1]

My funds held in cash and bonds currently placed back into the C and S funds after it has dropped 15-20%...

Aside from a great depression with comanies disappearing, I WILL make 15-20% more than someone who kept the status quo C and S funds.

Fact.

Wonder why Buffett is sitting on like 600 billion right now?

 

[MTGomer]

I really wish I knew and should learn as much about trading as you guys.

My strategy is this, I invest the same amount every month in a SEP IRA into index funds and ETFs like VOOG, QQM, FXAIX etc and a smaller amount into an individual taxable brokerage.

When the market dips, I will buy more than my usual monthly amount like I did today.

It seems like a simple plan for success, but I do wish I understood it all better.

 

[cgasner1]

I really wish I knew and should learn as much about trading as you guys.

My strategy is this, I invest the same amount every month in a SEP IRA into index funds and ETFs like VOOG, QQM, FXAIX etc and a smaller amount into an individual taxable brokerage.

When the market dips, I will buy more than my usual monthly amount like I did today.

It seems like a simple plan for success, but I do wish I understood it all better.
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It’s a deep dark rabbit hole that will probably piss you off if you wander down it. Especially if you start looking into how hedge funds run and politics

 

[seeth07]

I really wish I knew and should learn as much about trading as you guys.

My strategy is this, I invest the same amount every month in a SEP IRA into index funds and ETFs like VOOG, QQM, FXAIX etc and a smaller amount into an individual taxable brokerage.

When the market dips, I will buy more than my usual monthly amount like I did today.

It seems like a simple plan for success, but I do wish I understood it all better.

That was me a year ago. It was something that interested me though and turns out I have a passion for it. A lot of my free time is now spent on market research and placing trades. It's some rewarding work though and satisfies me for the time put in to see it pay off. Honestly very similar to spending time planing a hunt and then after months of prep finally standing over a dead bull.

 

[NDGuy]

I really wish I knew and should learn as much about trading as you guys.

My strategy is this, I invest the same amount every month in a SEP IRA into index funds and ETFs like VOOG, QQM, FXAIX etc and a smaller amount into an individual taxable brokerage.

When the market dips, I will buy more than my usual monthly amount like I did today.

It seems like a simple plan for success, but I do wish I understood it all better.

Doing that will beat 99% of traders in the long run

 

[Sytes]

I’m 100% anti-tariff but it has nothing to do with your question. You’re trying to say if I believe in A then I can predict B.

I do not view you as one of the "extremes" I referenced.
Your basis is on the market. Anti-Trump extremes are basing their emotional market statements.

"Yuge" difference.

 

[Wildabeest]

What happened to all the doomsday, Trump is destroying our economy, b.s.?

The 15-20% drop is the extent of this dip?

Haha!

Funny how looking at your posts from 4 years ago it was all about your shorting strategy. Now it’s all about your apologetic “Trump is creating a great buying opportunity for you” rhetoric taking straight from MAGA talking points. Your credibility suffers.

 

[ismith]

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Well, this isn’t what I wanted to hear. Any guesses how war with Iran will affect the global markets? The bulk of the B2 bombers are at Diego Garcia right now too. My guess is they are after Irans nuclear enrichment and storage facilities.