Anybody Buying Yet? Where’s the Bottom?

I just did a little survey on a piece of property that an owner of an HVAC company owns. In talking with him, He is in the same position as I am… He has more work than he can get done, and cannot find anybody to hire to do the work. I don’t know what the cultural problem in our country is, but there seems to be plenty of young men content to work shitty jobs earning $17 an hour instead of learning a skill and make 40+. There is nobody to do these jobs even if they were brought home.


You can find people to do physically hard, brainless work. You can find people to do physically easy, but mentally challenging work. Finding people to do physically challenging work that also requires having a brain is nearly impossible.
 
I just did a little survey on a piece of property that an owner of an HVAC company owns. In talking with him, He is in the same position as I am… He has more work than he can get done, and cannot find anybody to hire to do the work. I don’t know what the cultural problem in our country is, but there seems to be plenty of young men content to work shitty jobs earning $17 an hour instead of learning a skill and make 40+. There is nobody to do these jobs even if they were brought home.


You can find people to do physically hard, brainless work. You can find people to do physically easy, but mentally challenging work. Finding people to do physically challenging work that also requires having a brain is nearly impossible.

You have the answer in your post. I've been retired from a Billings refinery for a dozen years. Never, during my time there, did they have any trouble, at all, finding employees. The schedules are awful , and the work can be hard and dangerous. It was the pay and benefits that drew them in.

Flip it around, you want some one to do a job that is physically demanding and requires plenty of skill. Your job openings are not winning in the marketplace. It could well be you need to sweeten the pot.
 
You have the answer in your post. I've been retired from a Billings refinery for a dozen years. Never, during my time there, did they have any trouble, at all, finding employees. The schedules are awful , and the work can be hard and dangerous. It was the pay and benefits that drew them in.

Flip it around, you want some one to do a job that is physically demanding and requires plenty of skill. Your job openings are not winning in the marketplace. It could well be you need to sweeten the pot.

While that sounds like it makes sense, reality is that there is nobody to hire.

This isn’t Bozeman where there’s 20 surveyors.

It’s lake havasu/Kingman.

There not being anybody to hire is the same reason I have so much work, there’s nobody else for the clients to hire either.



There are three legitimate land surveying companies in Mojave County that are more than a one man shop. All three of us combined have less surveyors than any single engineering company in Bozeman or Billings and we are serving a market area about the same size as Billings


My post is on indeed right now. It’s offering a higher wage than any comparable land survey job in the state of Arizona.

I am completely reliant on the willingness of people to uproot their lives and move to one of the hottest places in the country, that does not have healthcare and is over ran half the year with snowbirds.

It is a very unique, niche place. It’s a blessing and a curse.

On one hand, it is how a 30-year-old leaves his job and immediately starts working for the largest developers in the area, but on the other, the same dynamics are what make it very challenging to find workers
 
While that sounds like it makes sense, reality is that there is nobody to hire.

This isn’t Bozeman where there’s 20 surveyors.

It’s lake havasu/Kingman.

There not being anybody to hire is the same reason I have so much work, there’s nobody else for the clients to hire either.



There are three legitimate land surveying companies in Mojave County that are more than a one man shop. All three of us combined have less surveyors than any single engineering company in Bozeman or Billings and we are serving a market area about the same size as Billings


My post is on indeed right now. It’s offering a higher wage than any comparable land survey job in the state of Arizona.
I wish I was 20 years younger. Didn't know it then..but that is a career that I wish I had taken a better look at.
 
But it’s a dry heat. 😂 Seriously as someone who grew up down south, there’s no way I would want to work in that heat.
I am completely reliant on the willingness of people to uproot their lives and move to one of the hottest places in the country, that does not have healthcare and is over ran half the year with snowbirds.
 
But it’s a dry heat. 😂 Seriously as someone who grew up down south, there’s no way I would want to work in that heat.
There’s just something special about getting up at 4:30 and knowing that the 94 degrees is the lowest you’ll see on the thermometer until you get up the next morning.
 
I just did a little survey on a piece of property that an owner of an HVAC company owns. In talking with him, He is in the same position as I am… He has more work than he can get done, and cannot find anybody to hire to do the work. I don’t know what the cultural problem in our country is, but there seems to be plenty of young men content to work shitty jobs earning $17 an hour instead of learning a skill and make 40+. There is nobody to do these jobs even if they were brought home.


You can find people to do physically hard, brainless work. You can find people to do physically easy, but mentally challenging work. Finding people to do physically challenging work that also requires having a brain is nearly impossible.
So you are saying we need MORE immigrants, right?
 
Somewhat of an unpopular opinion but this correction was gonna happen regardless of who became president. View attachment 366964


U.S. stock futures opened sharply lower late on Sunday, suggesting a continuation of the two-day selloff that wiped trillions from equity values after the Trump administration's tariffs announcement last week.
Investors had been anticipating another week of turbulence as global trading partners react to the harsher-than-expected tariffs. U.S. S&P 500 E-minis stock futures were last down 4%. Dow E-minis were down 3.8%, while Nasdaq 100 E-minis were down 4.6% at the open on Sunday.

In the two days following Trump's Wednesday tariff announcement, the benchmark S&P 500 index fell 10.5% and lost about $5 trillion in market value. It was the biggest two-day loss since March 2020. Thursday and Friday's steep slide, opens new tab put the S&P 500 down more than 17% from its February 19 all-time closing high, and brought it closer to bear market territory, which is typically defined as a 20% decline.
 

U.S. stock futures opened sharply lower late on Sunday, suggesting a continuation of the two-day selloff that wiped trillions from equity values after the Trump administration's tariffs announcement last week.
Investors had been anticipating another week of turbulence as global trading partners react to the harsher-than-expected tariffs. U.S. S&P 500 E-minis stock futures were last down 4%. Dow E-minis were down 3.8%, while Nasdaq 100 E-minis were down 4.6% at the open on Sunday.

In the two days following Trump's Wednesday tariff announcement, the benchmark S&P 500 index fell 10.5% and lost about $5 trillion in market value. It was the biggest two-day loss since March 2020. Thursday and Friday's steep slide, opens new tab put the S&P 500 down more than 17% from its February 19 all-time closing high, and brought it closer to bear market territory, which is typically defined as a 20% decline.
Headlines are the fuel to bring the pain. Read the chart. 2026-2027 will be amazing
 
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