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Ten beers, are you serious?

I think anyone with more than two firing brain cells could figure out driving down a streambed isnt doing anything but damage to the watershed.

People like YOU are the exact reason we need extensive regulations that spell everything out...you arent smart enough to do anything but sit there and be spoon fed your mush...dont think on your own or use your own brain.

Common sense escapes some people...
 
TB- Legal and ethical are two differnet beasts. It's legal for me to shoot at deer at 1543yds offhand, but I don't find that ethical. It may be legal to ride down the road that is a streambed, but I don't find that ethical. See a pattern emerging...?

As for catching the sarcasm, that's the hard part about the typed word vs. spoken. Missed it, sorry.
 
One more time for the slow at intellect.
Let me get this straight, riding down the streambed, even when the streambed is part of a "classified" road (open for all motorized vehicles) is wrong????

I'm sorry, I don't know how to type it any slower for you. What part of "classified" as a ROAD do you not understand? Could it be the part that to build roads around that area would be more destructive? Or are you just blinded by your own biases?

Want to talk in person? Breakfast, Enaville Snakepit 02/26/05, couple miles north of I-90, along the Coeur d' Alene River. Buffet breakfast costs $6.00, I'll cover the coffee.
 
I still get it, the road is legal.

Not all roads are in good places and not all places are good for roads. What part of that don't you understand?

If the road is open they can drive it, but I still don't have to believe it's ethical. What part of that don't you understand?
 
TB
A "fjord" is not a stream crossing. A fjord is a long, narrow deep-water bay left behind by a retreating glacier. The places along streams or rivers where the water is shallow enough, the current slow enough and the bottom firm enough to cross without difficulty are called "fords".

I take you at your word that the folks riding in the "stream" are in fact riding on an old road bed that has had water diverted onto its course by mining activity. Let me ask you this: Is there anything in that picture that conveys that truth? Don't you agree that this ATV club has a responsibility to themselves, at least, to be mindful of the images they put into the public domain?

That picture in and of itself goes along way towards reinforcing negative stereotypes about the ATV crowd because it amounts to a de facto endorsement of riding in streambeds. Suggestion: captions for clarity.
 
Ten Bears said:
BAMBISTEW, what mine did you work at? I still live in the valley (Kellogg end).

The Galena, worked as a "nipper" the first year, and then did engineering work the next summer. It's been a few years ago though, chit I can't even remeber the guys I worked with...

My Sister teaches English in Kellog. It's been a few years since I was up there. Love that area!
 
Erik in AK said:
TB
A "fjord" is not a stream crossing. A fjord is a long, narrow deep-water bay left behind by a retreating glacier. The places along streams or rivers where the water is shallow enough, the current slow enough and the bottom firm enough to cross without difficulty are called "fords".

I take you at your word that the folks riding in the "stream" are in fact riding on an old road bed that has had water diverted onto its course by mining activity. Let me ask you this: Is there anything in that picture that conveys that truth? Don't you agree that this ATV club has a responsibility to themselves, at least, to be mindful of the images they put into the public domain?

That picture in and of itself goes along way towards reinforcing negative stereotypes about the ATV crowd because it amounts to a de facto endorsement of riding in streambeds. Suggestion: captions for clarity.

Thanks for the spelling correction. The "road" is the creek channel at that point, not water diverted from the creek on the road. The real damage was done farther upstream. I don't belong to any of these ATV clubs, mainly because most of them have "agendas" that I don't agree with. I (and some others) have in the past taken the Wallace based group to task on some of the film footage they were showing on local TV. Seems the FS and f&g didn'twant to pursue the issue, even though the film footage was right there.

BAMBISTEW, I never worked underground at the Galena, but I've know many who have. I spent time underground as a nipper, motorman, and miner in the Star and Bunker Hill.
 
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