410 TSS

[WildWill]

What shot size are you guys running for turkey 7# or 9#? What is your effective range?

 

[Nick87]

Following.

 

[Birdbander]

It took me some experimenting to find a combination I like.
Rossi Tuffy Turkey 410
Jebs X-Full choke
Apex Ammunition Turkey Ninja TSS
This target was at 35 yards
(Scope adjusted to the right afterwards)

 

[winmag]

Another vote for #9.5’s in the 410. It’s the best compromise of pattern density and penetration. 45 yards is a good stake in the ground for #9.5’s. #9’s will kill one at 60 but you’d run out of pattern before then with a 410. #7 TSS is wayyyyy overkill. You could just body shoot turkeys at 100 yards with #7 TSS.

Given the same muzzle velocity, a #9.5 TSS has the same penetration as a lead #5 at 40 yards. Killing turkeys is more about penetrating and disrupting the brain or spine than it is energy.

I handload essentially the same load as Apex and it puts 220 pellets in 10” at 40 yards.

 

[Arcola]

My boy has taken several birds with Federal TSS 9’s out of his 410. Closest was 35 yds. Furthest was over 50 yds. I did have to stand on that one’s neck for just a bit, but he wasn’t getting back up.

 

[WildWill]

Rossi Tuffy Turkey 410

Exact gun I got my son.




Appreciate the advice so far guys. How's the recoil in those lighter guns with TSS especially on kids? I know it kicks like hell in my 12 gauge. Thinking of just having him practice with high brass #6 then swapping out for tss during hunting. I'll pattern the gun myself just don't want him developing a flinch plus $$$. Good to hear about the range I think we are going to limit his shots to under 40 yards so sounds like range won't be a problem.

 

[Birdbander]

I can't say what the felt recoil will be for a youth, but I found it minimal.

I used #6 lead to get the pattern close to where I wanted it then finished to confirm with the Apex to save on money also.

 

[blackbeard]

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[Arcola]

Had my boy practicing with 8’s. The first TSS he ever shot was at a nice Tom. He never noticed the difference in the moment.

To me, the recoil is incredibly low but I’ve always approached recoil with my kids very cautiously. I don’t want to create bad habits. That said, my 9yo has been shooting a 20ga and 7mmHT for over a year. I personally credit the baby steps we took with recoil early on.

 

[Wild Bill]

I wouldn’t be afraid of the recoil at all. I’ve got the same gun. I’ve killed a handful of birds with the Federal #9s. Killed furthest at 35.
As always, pattern for yourself, but the Federal 9s in my gun shot far better with an aftermarket Carlson’s choke tube.

 

[Montana_Wanderer]

I have used #9.5 Apex mainly and it works great. Pattern opens up on my gun a bit fast and it’s fixed so 35 is my max. My Yildiz is sub 4lbs so it’s a joy to carry, but does kick.

You will likely have some stray pellets and #9.5 are tiny. Check your meat very carefully as tss will easily chip or crack a tooth!

 

[okie archer]

I hand load TSS for waterfowl and turkeys. For turkey I load #9's in 20 gauge and #10 for the .410. My son has killed several toms with the .410 since 8 years old, he's now 12. I have recently been grabbing the .410 for myself because it's just so fun to me. Lightweight and very little recoil. Last year my son killed a tom at 49 yards with .410, I did step on head to finish.
20 gauge 10" circle at 40 yards=326 pellet count.
.410 10" circle @40 yards=193 pellet count.
.410 10" circle @50 yards=114 pellet count.

 

[rebelmdb]

I have had good luck with 9 and 10 shot for turkey from Apex and Boss. I’ve also used the 7.5 and 9 for sea ducks out of my 28ga.

 

[Jwill]

I have used #9.5 Apex mainly and it works great. Pattern opens up on my gun a bit fast and it’s fixed so 35 is my max. My Yildiz is sub 4lbs so it’s a joy to carry, but does kick.

You will likely have some stray pellets and #9.5 are tiny. Check your meat very carefully as tss will easily chip or crack a tooth!

I don’t think I’ll ever get past this.

 

[Gellar]

Does anyone have pictures of their TSS group at say 10-20 yards? I usually have no problem calling birds that close and I am worried about my pattern being to tight at close range.

 

[Birdbander]

Does anyone have pictures of their TSS group at say 10-20 yards? I usually have no problem calling birds that close and I am worried about my pattern being to tight at close range.

I've not taken a picture of 20 yard targets, but its more or less a ragged hole about fist size. You'll certainly want to know point of impact for that range or closer otherwise it'll be a miss.

 

[Gellar]

I've not taken a picture of 20 yard targets, but its more or less a ragged hole about fist size. You'll certainly want to know point of impact for that range or closer otherwise it'll be a miss.

That’s what I figured.

 

[Wild Bill]

I don’t have a pic either, but birdbander described that pretty accurately. I took a tom at 10 yards and it severed the head. Probably about a racquetball at that range.

 

[WildWill]

Does anyone have pictures of their TSS group at say 10-20 yards? I usually have no problem calling birds that close and I am worried about my pattern being to tight at close range.

If midway ships as fast as usual I'll post one this weekend.