.25 Creed! But Why?

[El Jason]

I’d take the 25 over the 6

More ooomph?

 

[MTLabrador]

I’d take the 25 over the 6

Kind of like a .257 Roberts for sleek bullets. I agree it’s pretty cool.

 

[Potsie]

More ooomph?

More wallops.

The true measure of authoritah.



But the more I dissect it, the .25 Creed really is the best of the 3.

 

[sclancy27]

I would rather have a 25 Creed vs 6 or 6.5 Creed. Why?

1. Less recoil than 6.5 Creed with same BC bullets and faster velocities for better wind bracketing. I also like to zero my rifle at longer ranges and this could accommodate a 250 or 300 yard zero, which I prefer to a 200 or 100 yards zero.

2. Better BC (by far) than 6mm bullets, with marginally more recoil. Better drops and wind brackets due to BC.

 

[noharleyyet]

 

[Gr8bawana]

why not, some guys love 25cal. Like we need another flavor of beer? LOL

As long as it's not an IPA

 

[Sheltowee]

Based on the numbers, no discernible difference between the 6.5 and the 25 Creed in the hunting field. 25 Creed with the new 128gr. ELD-X should smoke the standard 108gr. 6 Creed ELD-X (about 16% more mass) in on-game performance.

For 1k+ steel shooting, the 25 is going to be very incrementally more efficient and less prone to wind drift than the Creed.

The .25-cal is also quintessentially American, but y'all already know I'm a quarterbore fanboy. Currently have a .257 Roberts Ackley, a 25-7PRC and am having a 25PRC built. I'll rebarrel my 6.5 Creed to 25 if I ever shoot it out.

 

[antelopedundee]

To me it seems to close to the .270.
Which the 6.5 in 129 lrx barrnes doing just under 2900 is impressive

I recall an older article in maybe Handloader or Rifle magazine [possibly by Ron Spomer] discussing the 6.5 x 06. The parting shot was if you had or could get a .270Win why would you want or need a 6.5 x 06. Dang good cartridge IMO.

 

[ismith]

No .30 Creed out there. I'll stick with the RUM I guess. mtmuley

There is, it’s called the 300 Savage.

 

[ismith]

Pretty sure the phrase “There’s nothing new under the sun” applies here.

 

[jeff_gibbons]

For shooting steel at longer distances, I’d rather have the 25 than the 6mm for bc and bigger bullet splash. Benefit compared to 6.5 is less recoil.

 

[kodiakisland]

Pretty sure the phrase “There’s nothing new under the sun” applies here.

Yeah, but every generation thinks they've invented something new.
Powder and bullets have come a long way, but case design was hashed out many years ago.

 

[EastTNHunter]

What are real world performance numbers with this cartridge vs inflated marketing numbers? Looks like it may be a pretty cool “tweener” cartridge that could be a better mousetrap if the advertised numbers are true

 

[ismith]

The next greatest thing will be a 308 Norma case, necked down to .257, with a double radius shoulder.

 

[Sheltowee]

The next greatest thing will be a 308 Norma case, necked down to .257, with a double radius shoulder.

Close enough for government work: https://westtexordnance.com/25-7-prc-cartridge-development-and-test-results/

Basically a modernized .257Wby twisted for high BC bullets.

 

[jimh406]

Close enough for government work: https://westtexordnance.com/25-7-prc-cartridge-development-and-test-results/

Basically a modernized .257Wby twisted for high BC bullets.

Not at all equivalent to a 257 Weatherby speed if you look at the charts. Of course, a lot less kick.

But it’s not made to replace it either.

 

[Sheltowee]

Not at all equivalent to a 257 Weatherby speed if you look at the charts. Of course, a lot less kick.

But it’s not made to replace it either.

With all due respect, did you read the article I linked? I was responding to @ismith about the 25-7PRC, which hangs in the 3250-3300fps range with 133ish grain projectiles. Only a super-custom .257Wby would be throated and twisted to load such a high BC .25-cal projectile.

The .25 Creed's closest analog is probably the .257 Roberts, maybe the .250-3000. Of course, neither of those can sling the heavy-for-caliber projectiles the .25 Creed was designed around.

 

[ismith]

I have my eye on a really nice old Mauser Original chambered in 250-3000. Beautiful rifle, Kurtz action, as light and scopeless as god intended.