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    Hunter's public image.

    Since if A = B and B = C, then A = C, then it follows that if hunting = game farm shoots and game farm shoots = simple meat slaughter, then hunting = simple meat slaughter. I’m not sure this is Tom’s conclusion, but I hope not. If Bubba calls up 100%-Success-Bulls-Are-Us and says he wants to...
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    MT's I-143 under attack

    Nothing I’d like to have banned is coming to mind. I don’t even think banning game farm shoots is appropriate. In this thread I’ve just described my interpretation of what happened in Montana. I think these shoots are a horrible thing and that they are terrible for legitimate hunting. I wish...
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    Game farm shoots... elk vs. buffalo

    I apologize if this topic has been discussed before. I must have missed it. I'd still like to discuss it however. As I would never stoop to shooting a deer or elk in an enclusure, I would shoot a privately owned buffalo. I have justified this to myself in my own mind (with rationale similar...
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    Game farm shoots... elk vs. buffalo

    I'm wondering about the opions here on this.... if you are against game farm shoots of elk and/or deer, do you feel the same about buffalo? Why or why not?
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    MT's I-143 under attack

    Greenhorn, If it was about cheap, sleezy, mismanaged, etc. business practices funded by public funds, why ban the activity rather than fix what was wrong with it?
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    MT's I-143 under attack

    Tom, I think you are missing my point. Of course the anit's don't like any kind of hunting. But it's not them we have to worry about, its the non-hunters (who are more rational, in general) and the anit-hunter influence over them. If you randomly picked a representation from the non-hunting...
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    ODFW's wolf debate has got Oregon residents howling

    For what it's worth, my dad and I saw a pair of wolves chasing a coyote in the Jamez mountains of norhtern New Mexico in the late 70's. We reported it to the Fish and Game Dept. and were told we were wrong.... that there were no wolves in NM. A short while later, a buddy of mine saw wolves in...
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    MT's I-143 under attack

    It is not the non-hunting community that threatens our lifestyle; it is the anti-hunting community. Big difference. It will ultimately be left in the hands of the non-hunters, as they make up the majority. But we sportsman have (or could have if we were organized and far-enough-sighted) just...
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    Pa mt man's first elk

    Way to go... congrats!
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    MT's I-143 under attack

    Gila... you think the anti-canned hunt movement was started by the... oh my God... 'liberal press'? Got any other good conspiracy theories? The movement in Montana was initiated and run through by sportsman. These sportsman decided to define what hunting ought to be and what it would be known...
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    Canned hunts in Colorado also probably going to be a thing of the past

    The notes Tom posted don't agree with what was told to me by one of the presenters. I was let to believe that nobody with an opposing position actually spoke. Must have been a miscommunication. Also, the person stated in the notes as representing the RMEF was not. He was representing...
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    Canned hunts in Colorado also probably going to be a thing of the past

    The Agriculture Committee shot down the bill that would ban high-fence hunts. Speaking for the ban where the Colorado Wildlife Foundation, the Mule Deer Foundation, the Colorado Bowhunters Association, and the Colorado Outfitters Association. Speaking against the ban were..... well..... nobody.
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    I pointer - Buzz , natural resouce grad schools ?

    New Mexico State for Wildlife and Northern Arizona for forestry would be worth a look.
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    Global warming at it again

    70 degrees in Denver today. No snow yet all winter.
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    Canned hunts in Colorado also probably going to be a thing of the past

    Opposing arguments were presented to legislative committee yesterday on a bill to outlaw high-fence game shoots in Colorado. It is unclear if it will make it out of committee this year, but if it doesn't it will come up again. Then, look for a ballot initiative in 2004.
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    Colo. county takes back roads closed by Feds

    The commissioners have been working on this for three years according to someone I know that knows the ex-county commissioner that spearheaded this. It might just be some wacky way to make a political statement, but they do seem dedicated to it. I also understand that if this effort progresses...
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    Lion hunting in Colorado potentially a thing of the past

    Oak, I heard it from a fellow RMEF committee person that is pretty well connected with people in the machine. I don't know who or even if anyone is spearheading a defense against this. I'm not sure how widely its known. I didn't have any idea about it till the other night. I doubt the RMEF...
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    Lion hunting in Colorado potentially a thing of the past

    If I recall correctly, mountain lion/human encounters did increase after lion hunting was banned in CA. I'm not sure how significant the increase was, however. Lion/pet/livestock encounters I seem to remember were going up too. Moreso than lion/human meetings (as one would expect). I was not...
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    Lion hunting in Colorado potentially a thing of the past

    I just heard last night that a bill will be introduced to the Colorado legislature next year to outlaw mountain lion hunting in Colorado. This, evidently, is being spearheaded by that chimpanzee woman. With the continuing Californication of Colorado, this probably has a good chance of passing...
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    Fever and Contagious

    Ahh... another elkaholic. You might join up with the RMEF and join/start a local chapter committee. It helps with my affliction.

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