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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    You pretty much hit the nail on the head. A majority of what I have argued so far has been to point out the hypocrisy in the logic many have presented here. Most of us want the option of riding a few wilderness trails here and there to gain access to other non-wilderness areas. Also, to keep...
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    Yep, he's the problem. I would much rather deal with someone as reasonable as you. Really, you would be the gift that keeps on giving. I implore all of you to actually read what Buzzy here has said so far in this discussion and try to justify this opening statement. Classic. I think I get...
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    No amount of documenting, linking, bolding, misinterpreting, faulty logic, or surmising about compromise regarding Wilderness Study areas will change that. Differences in opinion between user groups (ie; mountain bike organizations and BHR) do not constitute an unsurmountable divide which...
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    Funny, these same kind of studies have held up in court multiple times to keep trails open. And there have been many more studies done showing bicycles cause less trail erosion than horses. Even the Sierra Club doesn't use this argument in court anymore. And we all know how reasonable they are.
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    Seriously? Let me see if I can simplify it for you. I like to ride my bike. I can't ride my bike in WMA. The more WMAs that are designated, the fewer places I can ride. I will choose to fight WMA designations instead of welcoming them because I will loose more places that I have been riding...
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    I did buy my own land, with tax dollars. I call it public land. The advocates didn't have much of a choice in conceding the lower elevations because the lower elevations around most of the higher elevations are/were surrounded by private ranch land and indian reservations. "Take your...
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    Oh man, I don't even know where to begin with you. I've been thoroughly impressed with how someone can speak with such authority about a topic and have absolutely no idea what he's talking about. Seriously, you complete me. I've only been researching this topic since I started riding bikes in...
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    Fantastic. So because I don't appreciate the wilderness in the same way you do, I shouldn't be allowed to enter it with a bike? I suppose I shouldn't be there if I want to jog on a trail too? I'll make sure I bring a gun to shoot my horse in the head in case he bolts on me. I might miss some...
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    No, they were never intended to be kept out of the wilderness. Half the reason WMAs ever actually got traction at all was because the government realized how lazy people were getting. The mechanized transport side of it was actually in fear of rails being laid into these areas and hand carts...
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    Man, I am so impressed with the view points on this thread. I had no idea the thousands of miles I've spent grinding up hills on my bike required so little effort. Guess all that fluid running from my body was just water leaking from my Camel back. And let's face it, why shouldn't all of you...
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    Here here. Mechanized transport should be banned. Those evil cross-country skis, snow shoes, oars on drift boats, paddles, and yes trekking poles. All offering an unfair mechanical advantage over walking barefoot like Frank Church, Bob Marshall, and Howard Zahniser REALLY intended. Don't get...
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    Another fine point. Just like the founding fathers could have never foreseen what those horrid semi-auto rifles would be like. Let's ban them. Makes for a good argument right?
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    Wilderness: Mountain bicycle vs Boots. Interesting read.

    Well said. Maybe we should try to reduce the number of hunters in WMAs too. After all, some of them might shoot a deer 5 minutes before legal hunting ours. Like you said, more hunters more violators.

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