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What about those half eaten carcasses?

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"Part of the traveling show of anti-wolf organizers is pictures of half eaten elk and sometimes cattle. Ron Gilett of the Idaho anti-wolf coalition recently passed around a large portfolio of dead animals at the Idaho Press Club convention at which we both spoke.
Do these pictures prove that wolves kill for fun and leave the meat?

If you are already convinced that they do, then I suppose the photos will be "proof." However, as a teenager I learned that when you go into the woods and find a half-eaten dead animal, the prudent thing to think is that the kill belongs to an animal or animals that are nearby. You should be cautious. That it is abandoned is probably wrong.

Does anyone suppose a pack wolves is not going to hide when a bunch of people show up? A grizzly might not, but wolves unaccustomed to people at close range, are not going to hang around. Their skittishness might even cause them to abandon their kill. This is especially true in Idaho and Montana where wolf packs are smaller. They can't eat their kill in one meal. They eat until they are full. Then they sleep and socialize. Then they return, often 3 or 4 times. This is especially true in the winter, because the cold weather keeps the meat fresh.

The prime example of "surplus" killing often cited was several winters ago on the Gros Ventre River elk feedgrounds in Wyoming. The wolves would kill an elk at night and feed a bit. The next morning irritated employees of Wyoming Game and Fish would drag off the elk carcass, and eventually a pile of them accumulated next the snowmobile road. The message, intentional or not, was "look at the wasted meat." Of course, the wolves were not likely to retrieve their kills in an area that smelled so of people and machines.

The next winter Wyoming Game and Fish ended the practice, and no more "surplus" kills were detected."

http://www.forwolves.org/ralph/carcass.htm
 
I agree , Hunters scare Wolves away from their Kills, We should all stay out of the woods not to scare the poor wolves !!! Therefor less animals would be killed...
 
There are actually good arguments against (and for) wolves and the re-introduction in the three states. But, unfortunately Bozo's like Gilette are too stupid to make any progress. :rolleyes: Anybody know when they are filing their Lawsuit??? You know, the one where they try and find an Activist Judge to overturn the Executive branch's actions???? :D
 
Moosie, That's true. I once spent six days tracking a cougar. He killed three deer in that time. I finally realized the reason he was killing so many deer was because I was chasing him off the kills. I bet if I hadn't been tracking him he only would have killed one and spent the week eating it.

EG, I haven't heard anything about their lawsuit since last Spring. I think Gillet took the money they raised for the lawsuit and used it to cover his "expenses" while he was on his speaking tour. The word was he was traveling in great style! :D
 
YAH.. I can See you now Chasing a Cougar for 3 days with a BAckpack ;)

I bet if you didn't bother the Cougar it would have killed one a day...........
 
:rolleyes:

Gillette probably just needs to raise another half million to cover attorney fees. :rolleyes:

IT,6 days tracking a cougar, that's rich.
 
Ten, Yup, it was great fun. Interesting and educational, too. I never managed to get a glimpse of him. Unfortunately, you'll never be able to do something like that. You'd have to get your fat ass off the ATV.
 
IT,

Back to cruising Ralph Maughan's site for your information. You and Dr. Maughan must be good pals. The B. S. coming from both of you sounds like an echo chamber.
 
What, after 6 days your radio receiver batteries ran out? Or are you going to tell us that you tracked it by following its trail? :rolleyes:
 
Ten, Sure. That's exactly what I did. Any good hunter or tracker could do it. I'd pick up his track each morning close to where I left it the day before and follow it. I can understand why that would seem like some kind of superhuman feat to a road hunter like you, but it's easy for a real hunter. In case you're wondering, you can do the same thing with any animal tracks. Cougars are relatively easy when they're in the winter range.
 
1-P I have tracked many animals for multiple days. I have also "monitored" a cougar in one of the areas that I like to hunt muledeer for a couple of weeks. He was living well off the deer and elk that other hunters were wounding from the road, but not retrieving. When I finally decided to kill him, I changed my mind, and let him walk. I have never shot a cougar yet, but some day I may. I much prefer bears, their habits are easy to predict, and they are also easy to trail.
 
'Twas just curious as you seemed to be slighting his accomplishment. I know I haven't tracked an animal that long, but I'm guessing one could learn a bunch doing so. I haven't shot a cougar or a bear yet, hopefully in the next year or two I'll be able to rectify that problem! :D
 
This fall, I tracked up three different small groups of elk right to with in bow range, in one afternoon.
Birds can be tracked thru the air if you fully understand their movements and patterns.
The last week I was out, I followed a big bull all over the place. What a smart fellow he was I will tell you what. He must have had many people he has had to learn from before I came along.
But if I'm not fighting fires when the rut starts again, I know a lot of his patterns and I won't have to chase him thru crunchy snow.
 
elkchser, Ten's not going to believe any of that. The only tracks he can follow are from the ATV in front of him. :D

I'm glad to see somebody here besides me and 1 pointer knows something about tracking birds thru the air. I'll be doing it this weekend. :D
 
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