Utah Youth Any Bull Hunt

Day 5 - We talked it through the night before and we were running low on fuel with all the driving back and forth so we decided to hunt the big meadow we had been in the afternoon before for the morning hunt because it was only a 2 1/2 mile drive from camp to get to that trailhead.

We got up at 5:00 and left the trailer with breakfast and lunch packed at 5:15. Got to the meadow about 15 minutes before shooting light and settled down to wait.

Of course as it started to get light it became evident that there weren’t any elk in the meadow. We sat a little bit, I cow called a few times and then I decided it wouldn’t hurt anything to throw out a few bugles so I did. And actually got a response! Of course where we were setup it had a kind of echo and I thought I heard it to the southwest and my son thought it was to the northwest. I got another response and we both still heard it from different directions. Got a third response and my son was right, it was from the northwest.

We grabbed our gear and headed that way and I was cow calling and bugling a little but no response. We got into the timber a ways and maybe 10 minutes later got another response. He wasn’t sounding too interested but if we could keep him talking we had a chance. About 10 minutes later we got one more response and that was it. We were in fairly heavy timber with no openings so we didn’t think we had much of a chance just blindly heading after him so we hung out and called a few more times and then headed back to camp.

I had a line on some private property to hunt and we had actually talked to the guy about hunting it the day before but we were still hopeful to find something on public but we were out of gas (technically the truck was out of gas but we were both getting pretty beat as well) so we decided to break camp for a third time and head that way.

Our trip down was another fairly eventful trip down the mountain on a MUCH steeper gravel road with 2 stops to cool off the brakes. I should have done it earlier but I finally put some wheel chalks on the trailer so I could put my truck into 4wd Low to let the engine braking work on such a steep slow road. My truck has to be in neutral to go into 4wd Low and that’s pretty hard to do on a steep decline pulling a trailer. Once I got into 4wd low that solved all my issues and the rest of the way down was a piece of cake. I just don’t spend enough time in the mountains to think through not just relying 100% on my brakes whenever I want to. I don’t think we ever got in a true dangerous situation but I’m pretty sure I accelerated the useful life of my brake pads quite a bit.

Okay, back to the hunting. As we get about down the mountain I get cell service and the guy that had the private property had responded to a couple voicemails I had left and let me know that there was going to be another youth hunter hunting his property that night. We had originally talked to him about hunting it on day 4 and he had told us that there was another youth hunter going to be hunting it later in the week so we were not surprised that it wasn’t available that evening. We had also just seen some elk the night before and decided we would try that again.

I told my wife we were going to go back up top for that evening hunt and she looked at me like she wanted to kill me. She thought I was going to drag the trailer back up and down with us but I had had enough of that as well and we were going to leave to trailer at the bottom just drive to truck up and down the mountain.

We got to town, gassed up and headed over to a state park and got checked into the campground with electricity, water and everything! The drawback was that the camp spots were just a big parking lot with lines to divide up the spots and they were right next to each other.

We got the trailer parked and unhitched and headed back up the mountain to the same spot again for that nights hunt. The crazy thing was that because it was mostly on pavement it took less time to get there from the state park at the bottom of the mountain than it had from where we had the trailer parked way back in there the last couple nights.

We actually got there early enough we were able to drive around a little to get a somewhat better feel for the overall lay of the land. Some very good looking spots, but since we had actually seen elk there the night before we would go ahead and stick to the same spot.

We got setup in the same exact spot as the night before and this time we didn’t get distracted by the deer coming into water or the odd sounds behind us, we spotted the first elk up in the treeline just before sunset! A group of 6 or 7 were just hanging out waiting for it to get dark.

We spotted another group of 5 or 6 much closer and 2 of them were actually headed down toward the water with about 15 minutes before shooting light ended and a truck comes driving down the road, stops, then starts driving again. The elk zipped back into the trees. That is the worst part about the spot, it is right off the road just a few hundred yards. There isn’t a lot of traffic but the traffic that there was was at almost exactly the wrong time for us.

Dark starts approaching pretty rapidly and I’m seeing some elk moving our way but it isn’t looking like they are going to make it fast enough but it is going to be close. Then they hang up in a small group of trees about 600 yards away and just stand there. Shooting light ends and they come racing down the hill to the water again. Shooting light ended at 7:56 that night and the elk hit the water at 8:01! It’s like they had a stopwatch up there on the hill that went off the second shooting light was over.

It was tough to talk my son out of shooting one again as visible light was still pretty good out there in the open with good optics. We could very clearly see them as long as 15 minutes after shooting light. I guess I don’t hunt the earlier seasons enough to notice it because once you get into November legal shooting light and visible shooting light seem to match up pretty well, but in mid September you can see pretty darn good well past shooting light.

So here we are again, sitting 150 yards away from 7 cow and calf elk splashing around in the water. But this time it didn’t stop with them leaving about as quickly as they came in. This time another 6 came in about 5 minutes later, then another 12 a few minutes after that and then a few more then a few more and I am pretty sure there were 40 head of elk within 200 yards of us for over 45 minutes. It was a very cool experience for both of us as they were cow calling constantly and the calves were running around and splashing in the water and a coyote showed up at one point and we had a few elk on our side of the water less than 100 yards away!

There was one bull that bugled 5 or 6 times but he didn’t seem to come to the water with the rest of them, he hung back on the other side of the road even though by then it was pretty well full dark.

We gave up on letting them all leave before we pulled out and decided to leave almost a full hour after dark when there was still a few elk down at the water. We crept out and I don’t think we spooked them because we still heard a few cow calls down by the water as we were walking out.

It was a very cool experience, but my son is really looking forward to actually connecting on one instead of just watching and listening to them in the dark.

We headed back down the mountain and made plans to be back at it before first light the next morning.

Didn’t get many pictures that day for some reason. Here is one showing the smoke from the fire to the west where we had originally planned on hunting.

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Day 6 - We decided to try the big meadows we had been to on the morning of day 4 again just in case things had settled down and they were back in there. Another 5:00 alarm, another 50 minute drive and we were out on the edge of another meadow at 15 minutes before shooting light. Another empty meadow. I cow called and bugled a few times but nothing happened. Instead of sitting and watching an empty meadow for an hour we decided to pick up and move. We found a spot we could look over some other meadows and guess what? They were empty too.

We drove around to the water spot and there was a truck parked at a crossroad pretty close by. I haven’t mentioned it much but I’ve been pretty surprised at how many other youth hunters we have been seeing. I would say around 5 or 6 a day at least. Nearly all of those are mid morning or mid afternoon as we are driving too or from hunting spots but it is more than I would have expected since they only give out 500 tags for the entire state. Thinking through how it must be when the regular season is going with 17,000 tags available the pressure must be unbelievable.

One other thing to mention is how nice everyone we have talked to has been and how willing people are to help out. It actually seems like people are nicer to us because of our out of state plates instead of the other way around. I’m sure a lot of it is because this is a special youth only season so people seem a lot more interested in helping a kid out but it has still been very refreshing at how nice everyone we have met has been.

We ended up going back to camp and getting cell signal and talking with the guy with the private land again. The other hunter hadn’t seen anything so she was going to be back again tonight so that meant we would be back on our water spot. We had suspected this might be the case so we had spent some time really looking over the land around the water spot and where the different groups of elk had staged in the trees before coming out at dark. We pretty much decided that we could setup about 50 yards apart and be able to see at least a couple of the areas the elk had staged out of the night before. We are hoping that will give us the extra time we need.

That gets me caught up to where we are now, sitting on the side of the mountain hoping some elk show up the same place they did the night before!
 
Hoping tonight is your night! Been following along and sounds like you guys are making the most of it and having a great time. Can't wait for tonight's update.
 
Of course a calf walked within 10 yards of me instead of my son with about 10 minutes of shooting light. We miscommunicated and my son started heading my way and we spooked it off. Nothing else seen.
 
Thanks for the good stories and day-by-day updates. I'm sharing these with my son who has a youth elk hunt coming up in early October - the first elk tag in the family.
 
Day 7 - My son is having a pretty hard time with the 5:00 wake up calls. But that is hunting to me.

We loaded up our ATV in the back of the pickup and brought it along so we could drive some ATV trails if the morning sit didn’t turn out. Got up the mountain and started what looked like a 1/2 mile easy hike along an ATV trail to get to a meadow. This was back behind the water spot we had been hunting in the evenings. About halfway into the hike it became pretty evident that the trail in real life didn’t match up very well with the trail on our map so we decided to bushwack over to the meadow we had originally wanted to get to for shooting light. A bit of a pain with some deadfall but we got there about 10 minutes before shooting light.

It was a relatively small meadow and it didn’t take very long to see there wasn’t anything in it. I got him setup and I had agreed to walk back and get the ATV and come pick him up. While we were sitting there we heard an ATV going up the trail behind us.

I started up to the truck to get the ATV unloaded and tried a different route that looked like it might be easier but it wasn’t. Just as I was getting back to the truck a shot rings out what seemed like 100 yards in front of me. I come into the clearing I had parked the truck in and there is now a UTV parked there as well. Evidently they had driven right by us, walked maybe 100 yards off the road and 30 minutes later they had a shot opportunity. Based on the sound of the shot a very close shot opportunity that ended up with a solid hit.

I went ahead and unloaded the ATV and rode it back down the trail to pick up my son. I again tried a different way and this time it actually was easier! Just as I’m about to get back to him 2 shots ring out. The follow up shot sounded too quick for it to be my son but I actually wasn’t sure. I get the the meadow where he was set up and it was obvious he hadn’t been the one doing the shooting. He was pretty dejected hearing all those shots so close around us.

We headed back to the ATV and rode around a bit. Had to go back to the truck and you could hear voices up the hill not very far and it was pretty clear that they were taking care of an animal. We rode around some and then went and hiked to the spot we had been the night before from the back side of the hill and there was a lot of sign back there, but no elk that we could see.

We heard another couple shots, then a sting of 4 very rapid fire almost like a pistol, we decided those must be someone target practicing and not shooting at an animal.

We ended up going back to the truck loaded up the ATV and headed back down the mountain.

We really need to catch a break. I’m super proud of my son, I’ve been trying to be positive for him but it has been a very tough hunt, not so much physically, although the waking up at 5:00 and going to bed at 10:00 is starting to wear on him, but mentally it is tough to have so few opportunities although I did tell him I’ve had a few elk hunts where I didn’t even see any elk so at least this is better than that.

We were camped at a state park and the spot we had was reserved for the weekend so we had to move the trailer anyway so we decided to make a change of scenery.

One of the people we had talked to mentioned that the youth hunters can hunt the wildlife refuge with a rifle tag and it had the potential to be really good or really bad. He said to just call the refuge and ask if any elk are on the huntable part or not. Well with COVID getting anyone to answer the phone and return a voice message was almost impossible, so we drove down there pulling the trailer to see if there was anything happening. There wasn’t!

We decided to go ahead and go back to the area we were at on opening morning and see if we could shake things up a bit. Got the trailer unhitched and drove over the other side of the canyon and climbed up to 150 yards from were the elk were on opening morning.

We are sitting here now hoping they show up before dark!

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I think everyone goes through the lows and the highs in an hunt, it is hard to be in the 10% of the people that fill their tags
 
Is it my imaginations, or has he grown an inch or two just this hunting trip?

Paden's know how to grind it out.....hope there is a sweet victory dance in the next days to come.
 
Wow, just found this thread and ready through all your posts. You guys can pull it off, keep at it!
 
Day 8 - we decided to sleep in and take it easy so the alarm was set for 5:45 and left the trailer just after 6:00.

We drove the truck to some open spots along the road and waited for it to get light just in case we could spot something and make a plan on intercepting them. Tried a couple spots but no elk, just deer.

Decided to go back over by where we were the day before and look from up high and low and behold, 5 or 6 elk were making their way up to the spot we had sat the night before.

We quickly decided to go ahead and make a play on them and the game was on. It was about a 10 minute drive then a 30 minute fast hike to get to where we might have a chance to see them but it was worth it.

We crested the ridge with the wind in our favor and there was a bull elk 331 yards below us in some thick brush. He was moving uphill slowly and my son wasn’t comfortable taking a shot over 300 yards so we decided to move up a bit and wait on him to come to us.

We got setup in a spot that should give us about a 150 yard shot if he continued in the same direction he was heading and waited for him to show up. And waited, and waited. I moved back to where we had first seen him but couldn’t spot him anymore. I cow called a few times but nothing happened.

We moved up farther on the ridge and I’m pretty confident that he had skirted around the bottom from where we were setup and came up the next draw over. It would have most likely been a 220 yard shot if we had continued to that spot. This is one of those instances where being more familiar with the area would have paid off and we would have more than likely moved on up to that point right from the start. I cow called a few more times but still nothing.

We hiked down into the area we had last seen him and he was gone. By this time it was too late to go back up after them, I’m sure they were in the timber and getting bedded for the day. We talked it over and decided to head back to the truck.

A couple lessons learned. First, I really think he could have made the 331 yard shot. We could have probably got it closer to 300 with some minor closing instead of going up to try to intercept him much closer. Second, we should have moved up much sooner instead of waiting on him so long the first spot. I just didn’t realize the next draw over would have allowed a better field of view than where we setup at first.

Our 4th good opportunity of the week and a swing and a miss again.

Heard a few shots off in the distance, not sure what they would have been. Did see a tribal member coming out with a medium sized mule deer buck as we where headed back to camp and he had a rifle. I guess they don’t have to follow the open season rules even on National Forest. Talked to him a bit and he was a nice guy.

On the way back to camp we picked up cell coverage and got a message that we could hunt the private property this evening so that’s where we are going to be tonight.

It just feels like we have been so close all week to getting it done, but just haven’t pulled it off. The bull we saw this morning was actually a medium sized 5 point. I sure wish we could have gotten it done.
 
One lesson that I think I learned from this is that it is probably better to just stick with a spot as long as you are at least seeing some elk there.

We saw elk here opening morning (4 cows) but then ditched it based on a tip we got where there were 30 elk. We actually got an opportunity that evening, but then that spot dried up. We then moved to another spot based on a tip and again, we saw elk but after dark. Then we did some looking on our own then checked another spot based on someone else’s suggestion and didn’t see anything there. We spent all our time chasing spots that for whatever reason didn’t end up panning out. We ended up with opportunities on most of them but I think if we had just stuck to our original spot that we ended back at last night and this morning we could have gotten it done by now.

Everyone has been SUPER helpful and wants to help a kid out but in retrospect I think we might have done better just sticking it on our own.

Of course I’m still not following my own advise because we are going to try the private ground tonight with the hopes of at least getting some meat for the freezer.
 
I think you move too much.

If you know elk are there, as you saw them, stay there until you find them again.

Looking for 10 minutes and then walking back to the truck is just wearing you out.

Or just calling a couple times, figuring nothing is there, and then leaving.

Pack a lunch and water and a pack frame and hunt the elk you know are there.

Glass into those patches of timber and brush. Move a couple hundred yards and do it again, and again, and again.....

You know the elk are there.
 
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