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I know not everyone is a fan but the death penalty may need an express lane for these cases. No public information to make him a household name, straight to the chair the next morning. We don’t need a tax drain for the rest of his life with cable and 3 squares a day and we don’t need attorneys making a mint to figure out he’s bat shit crazy with a public trial for the media…
I personally wouldn’t want to live in a country without due process.

Plenty of people are wrongly accused and arrested by twitchy, overzealous cops, if we put them to death the next day, that would be a true tragedy.
 
Pretty tough to read the headlines about yourself when you're dead...

Its not publicity they want either...you can't apply rational thought to an irrational person's actions.
I agree and I’m not smart enough to know the correct solution. It’s rare that a reaction solves the problem, something has to address the causes and help prevent it from escalating to that point

All I’m trying to get at is blasting their information and trial on the news constantly doesn’t do anything positive for our country
 
Before anybody gets too spun up just something to think about, over Independence Day weekend in Chicago there were seven people shot dead and 54 people shot over the weekend. That was as of seven hours ago. I’m sure they will stack up a few more tonight.

Independence Day weekend last year 14 people killed 74 injured/shot.
 
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Rate is number incarcerated per 100,000 population
CSV JSON
CountryIncarceration RateTotal Incarcerated% Male% Female
United States6292,068,80090.00%10.00%
Rwanda58076,09995.00%5.00%
Turkmenistan57635,00094.00%7.00%
El Salvador56436,66393.00%7.00%
Cuba51057,3370.00%0.00%
Palau4788695.00%5.00%
British Virgin Islands47714396.00%5.00%
Thailand445309,28289.00%12.00%
Panama43418,94295.00%5.00%
Saint Kitts And Nevis42322096.00%4.00%
Grenada41346399.00%1.00%
United States Virgin Islands39441297.00%3.00%
Bahamas3921,61797.00%3.00%
Uruguay38313,40295.00%5.00%
Brazil381811,70795.00%5.00%
Saint Vincent And the Grenadines36941097.00%3.00%
Anguilla36755100.00%0.00%
Guam35560093.00%7.00%
Turkey347291,19896.00%4.00%
Belarus34532,55689.00%11.00%
American Samoa34519396.00%4.00%
Maldives3331,80096.00%4.00%
Nicaragua33220,91895.00%5.00%
Russia326471,49092.00%8.00%
Northern Mariana Islands31317594.00%6.00%
Cayman Islands31220594.00%6.00%
Costa Rica29815,34597.00%4.00%
 
Before anybody gets too spun up just something to think about, over Independence Day weekend in Chicago there were seven people shot dead and 54 people shot over the weekend. That was as of seven hours ago. I’m sure they will stack up a few more tonight.

Independence Day weekend last year 14 people killed 74 injured/shot.
We were doing a job acrossed from a private school on the Southside last year. Car opened up fire in front of the school in broad daylight. The laborer that was with me jumped down in the ditch and I swung the machine around. People at the gas station kitty corner and on the other sidewalks barely even batted an eye just looked over then went back to whatever they were doing. Unreal.
 
I agree and I’m not smart enough to know the correct solution. It’s rare that a reaction solves the problem, something has to address the causes and help prevent it from escalating to that point

All I’m trying to get at is blasting their information and trial on the news constantly doesn’t do anything positive for our country
Right, freedom of the press is unimportant...we need to be kept in the dark and it will all go away.

I guess the First should be further down the list, or maybe not on the list at all.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I'm stunned by posts like that...pretty tough to solve problems if you don't know they exist.

Unbelievable.
 
Right, freedom of the press is unimportant...we need to be kept in the dark and it will all go away.

I guess the First should be further down the list, or maybe not on the list at all.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I'm stunned by posts like that...pretty tough to solve problems if you don't know they exist.

Unbelievable.
Pick your news channel and show me a real journalist, Buzz. It’s a shit show on every channel and the more negative they spew the more clicks they get.
 
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Rate is number incarcerated per 100,000 population
CSV JSON
CountryIncarceration RateTotal Incarcerated% Male% Female
United States6292,068,80090.00%10.00%
Rwanda58076,09995.00%5.00%
Turkmenistan57635,00094.00%7.00%
El Salvador56436,66393.00%7.00%
Cuba51057,3370.00%0.00%
Palau4788695.00%5.00%
British Virgin Islands47714396.00%5.00%
Thailand445309,28289.00%12.00%
Panama43418,94295.00%5.00%
Saint Kitts And Nevis42322096.00%4.00%
Grenada41346399.00%1.00%
United States Virgin Islands39441297.00%3.00%
Bahamas3921,61797.00%3.00%
Uruguay38313,40295.00%5.00%
Brazil381811,70795.00%5.00%
Saint Vincent And the Grenadines36941097.00%3.00%
Anguilla36755100.00%0.00%
Guam35560093.00%7.00%
Turkey347291,19896.00%4.00%
Belarus34532,55689.00%11.00%
American Samoa34519396.00%4.00%
Maldives3331,80096.00%4.00%
Nicaragua33220,91895.00%5.00%
Russia326471,49092.00%8.00%
Northern Mariana Islands31317594.00%6.00%
Cayman Islands31220594.00%6.00%
Costa Rica29815,34597.00%4.00%


I already knew this info, but man it’s depressing to see.
Anyway… I’m not going to dwell on it too much, off to celebrate our FREEdom!
 
I already knew this info, but man it’s depressing to see.
Anyway… I’m not going to dwell on it too much, off to celebrate our FREEdom!
Shouldn't be depressing, its as predictable as the sun rising in the East.

Private for profit prisons make record profits by filling cells, not letting them sit empty.
 
Well, I guess if we're going to do away with the First, may as well trash the Second while we're at it too...
I’m not here to argue with you. Just give me a solution, I told you I don’t have all the answers. I just have a hard time with him spending a lifetime in prison at our expense.

I don’t think the government needs to regulate the media, we as a people need to elevate the standards of what’s acceptable just like we should with government officials.
 
I’m not here to argue with you. Just give me a solution, I told you I don’t have all the answers. I just have a hard time with him spending a lifetime in prison at our expense.

I don’t think the government needs to regulate the media, we as a people need to elevate the standards of what’s acceptable just like we should with government officials.
There is no solution beyond building caskets and burying the dead, that's just a fact.

Nobody has the stomach to do what it would take. I'm not in favor of doing away with First Amendment rights because you want to regulate the media to your liking. No different than not wanting to limit magazine capacity, types of firearms we can buy, etc.

As such, the price will continue to be paid by innocent people. No amount of prison's, tougher sentences, death penalty, any of the crap we talk about will change that. We have no desire and no will to fix any of it.

I accepted the facts a long time ago and all we can do is hope its not us, our families, or our friends that have to pay the price for our "freedom".

Just the way it is...and way its going to continue to be. Best to embrace it and move on.

Mass shootings are as American as apple pie, which is as unfortunate as it is tragic.
 
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Right, freedom of the press is unimportant...we need to be kept in the dark and it will all go away.

I guess the First should be further down the list, or maybe not on the list at all.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I'm stunned by posts like that...pretty tough to solve problems if you don't know they exist.

Unbelievable.
We don’t get “news” today. We get opinions. Other than weather guessers and sports guys the rest of the news is geared to get views not provide facts.
 
I saw that too, Chicago blaming all surrounding states with fewer gun laws and fewer gun crimes for the shootings in Chicago. 🤔
And yet no one in a position of power even seems willing to have a conversation about the apparent unfettered killing that goes on there. I mean seriously, they have a major crime issue there but always pass the blame on to someone else.
 
They have released the name and photograph of suspect, he fits the profile of what you would think.
I don’t know if it’s confirmed, allegedly he released a video, you can still watch on Venmo, about 8 months ago. If it is credible probably should’ve seen this one coming.

Edit: video has been pulled.
 
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“Should have seen this one coming” seems to be more common as of late.
 
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