The shootings just won't stop
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runningmt
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I personally wouldn’t want to live in a country without due process.
Plenty of people are wrongly accused and arrested by twitchy, overzealous cops, if we put them to death the next day, that would be a true tragedy.
When are you moving? mtmuley
I agree and I’m not smart enough to know the correct solution. It’s rare that a reaction solves the problem, something has to address the causes and help prevent it from escalating to that point
All I’m trying to get at is blasting their information and trial on the news constantly doesn’t do anything positive for our country
Before anybody gets too spun up just something to think about, over Independence Day weekend in Chicago there were seven people shot dead and 54 people shot over the weekend. That was as of seven hours ago. I’m sure they will stack up a few more tonight.
Independence Day weekend last year 14 people killed 74 injured/shot.
Independence Day weekend last year 14 people killed 74 injured/shot.
BuzzH
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Rate is number incarcerated per 100,000 population
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| Country | Incarceration Rate | Total Incarcerated | % Male | % Female |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| United States | 629 | 2,068,800 | 90.00% | 10.00% |
| Rwanda | 580 | 76,099 | 95.00% | 5.00% |
| Turkmenistan | 576 | 35,000 | 94.00% | 7.00% |
| El Salvador | 564 | 36,663 | 93.00% | 7.00% |
| Cuba | 510 | 57,337 | 0.00% | 0.00% |
| Palau | 478 | 86 | 95.00% | 5.00% |
| British Virgin Islands | 477 | 143 | 96.00% | 5.00% |
| Thailand | 445 | 309,282 | 89.00% | 12.00% |
| Panama | 434 | 18,942 | 95.00% | 5.00% |
| Saint Kitts And Nevis | 423 | 220 | 96.00% | 4.00% |
| Grenada | 413 | 463 | 99.00% | 1.00% |
| United States Virgin Islands | 394 | 412 | 97.00% | 3.00% |
| Bahamas | 392 | 1,617 | 97.00% | 3.00% |
| Uruguay | 383 | 13,402 | 95.00% | 5.00% |
| Brazil | 381 | 811,707 | 95.00% | 5.00% |
| Saint Vincent And the Grenadines | 369 | 410 | 97.00% | 3.00% |
| Anguilla | 367 | 55 | 100.00% | 0.00% |
| Guam | 355 | 600 | 93.00% | 7.00% |
| Turkey | 347 | 291,198 | 96.00% | 4.00% |
| Belarus | 345 | 32,556 | 89.00% | 11.00% |
| American Samoa | 345 | 193 | 96.00% | 4.00% |
| Maldives | 333 | 1,800 | 96.00% | 4.00% |
| Nicaragua | 332 | 20,918 | 95.00% | 5.00% |
| Russia | 326 | 471,490 | 92.00% | 8.00% |
| Northern Mariana Islands | 313 | 175 | 94.00% | 6.00% |
| Cayman Islands | 312 | 205 | 94.00% | 6.00% |
| Costa Rica | 298 | 15,345 | 97.00% | 4.00% |
Nick87
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We were doing a job acrossed from a private school on the Southside last year. Car opened up fire in front of the school in broad daylight. The laborer that was with me jumped down in the ditch and I swung the machine around. People at the gas station kitty corner and on the other sidewalks barely even batted an eye just looked over then went back to whatever they were doing. Unreal.
BuzzH
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Right, freedom of the press is unimportant...we need to be kept in the dark and it will all go away.
I guess the First should be further down the list, or maybe not on the list at all.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I'm stunned by posts like that...pretty tough to solve problems if you don't know they exist.
Unbelievable.
Pick your news channel and show me a real journalist, Buzz. It’s a shit show on every channel and the more negative they spew the more clicks they get.
MTGomer
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Rate is number incarcerated per 100,000 population
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Country Incarceration Rate Total Incarcerated % Male % Female United States 629 2,068,800 90.00% 10.00% Rwanda 580 76,099 95.00% 5.00% Turkmenistan 576 35,000 94.00% 7.00% El Salvador 564 36,663 93.00% 7.00% Cuba 510 57,337 0.00% 0.00% Palau 478 86 95.00% 5.00% British Virgin Islands 477 143 96.00% 5.00% Thailand 445 309,282 89.00% 12.00% Panama 434 18,942 95.00% 5.00% Saint Kitts And Nevis 423 220 96.00% 4.00% Grenada 413 463 99.00% 1.00% United States Virgin Islands 394 412 97.00% 3.00% Bahamas 392 1,617 97.00% 3.00% Uruguay 383 13,402 95.00% 5.00% Brazil 381 811,707 95.00% 5.00% Saint Vincent And the Grenadines 369 410 97.00% 3.00% Anguilla 367 55 100.00% 0.00% Guam 355 600 93.00% 7.00% Turkey 347 291,198 96.00% 4.00% Belarus 345 32,556 89.00% 11.00% American Samoa 345 193 96.00% 4.00% Maldives 333 1,800 96.00% 4.00% Nicaragua 332 20,918 95.00% 5.00% Russia 326 471,490 92.00% 8.00% Northern Mariana Islands 313 175 94.00% 6.00% Cayman Islands 312 205 94.00% 6.00% Costa Rica 298 15,345 97.00% 4.00%
I already knew this info, but man it’s depressing to see.
Anyway… I’m not going to dwell on it too much, off to celebrate our FREEdom!
BuzzH
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Well, I guess if we're going to do away with the First, may as well trash the Second while we're at it too...
BuzzH
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Shouldn't be depressing, its as predictable as the sun rising in the East.
Private for profit prisons make record profits by filling cells, not letting them sit empty.
It’s the surrounding states fault for not banning them. Or so I’ve been told on the news. Can’t be societal decay and no respect for human life. No way!
I’m not here to argue with you. Just give me a solution, I told you I don’t have all the answers. I just have a hard time with him spending a lifetime in prison at our expense.
I don’t think the government needs to regulate the media, we as a people need to elevate the standards of what’s acceptable just like we should with government officials.
Nick87
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I saw that too, Chicago blaming all surrounding states with fewer gun laws and fewer gun crimes for the shootings in Chicago.
BuzzH
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There is no solution beyond building caskets and burying the dead, that's just a fact.
Nobody has the stomach to do what it would take. I'm not in favor of doing away with First Amendment rights because you want to regulate the media to your liking. No different than not wanting to limit magazine capacity, types of firearms we can buy, etc.
As such, the price will continue to be paid by innocent people. No amount of prison's, tougher sentences, death penalty, any of the crap we talk about will change that. We have no desire and no will to fix any of it.
I accepted the facts a long time ago and all we can do is hope its not us, our families, or our friends that have to pay the price for our "freedom".
Just the way it is...and way its going to continue to be. Best to embrace it and move on.
Mass shootings are as American as apple pie, which is as unfortunate as it is tragic.
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We don’t get “news” today. We get opinions. Other than weather guessers and sports guys the rest of the news is geared to get views not provide facts.
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And yet no one in a position of power even seems willing to have a conversation about the apparent unfettered killing that goes on there. I mean seriously, they have a major crime issue there but always pass the blame on to someone else.I saw that too, Chicago blaming all surrounding states with fewer gun laws and fewer gun crimes for the shootings in Chicago.
They have released the name and photograph of suspect, he fits the profile of what you would think.
I don’t know if it’s confirmed, allegedly he released a video, you can still watch on Venmo, about 8 months ago. If it is credible probably should’ve seen this one coming.
Edit: video has been pulled.
I don’t know if it’s confirmed, allegedly he released a video, you can still watch on Venmo, about 8 months ago. If it is credible probably should’ve seen this one coming.
Edit: video has been pulled.
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EKYHunter
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“Should have seen this one coming” seems to be more common as of late.
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