noharleyyet
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Are you cleverly saying it’s pi$$?My reference was me being pedantic, we have sparkling wine, Champagne makes champagne.
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BigHornRam
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French pi$$.
406dn
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Regarding propane, the overwhelming percentage of it is produced at every oil refinery in the world. It is, more or less, a by product of making everything else in a refinery. Everything lighter than propane is used as refinery fuel. Everything heavier, goes into gasoline, diesel, etc.
Since the production is pretty constant, it often gets out of balance with demand. The refinery I worked at could store, roughly three days production, on site. In the winter, enough trucks come to load to, to keep the inventory stable. In the summer production far exceeds demand. It gets loaded into railcars, and shipped to some place with more storage capacity. I remember one summer when we were shipping propane to the gulf coast. The freight bill was larger than what the propane in the railcar was worth.
If I had use propane for heating, for certain I'd top off the tank every summer, to get a decent price.
I think there are propane suppliers that lease the storage tanks to customers. Conditionally, this means you have to purchase their propane at their price. If this is you, buy your storage tank outright, so you can shop several suppliers for a good price.
Since the production is pretty constant, it often gets out of balance with demand. The refinery I worked at could store, roughly three days production, on site. In the winter, enough trucks come to load to, to keep the inventory stable. In the summer production far exceeds demand. It gets loaded into railcars, and shipped to some place with more storage capacity. I remember one summer when we were shipping propane to the gulf coast. The freight bill was larger than what the propane in the railcar was worth.
If I had use propane for heating, for certain I'd top off the tank every summer, to get a decent price.
I think there are propane suppliers that lease the storage tanks to customers. Conditionally, this means you have to purchase their propane at their price. If this is you, buy your storage tank outright, so you can shop several suppliers for a good price.
jryoung
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Not entirely, the vast most of the industry doesn't compare to be sure, but there has been some interesting options showing up in recent years. Cruse wine is making sparkling more in the style of independent growers in Champagne, as well as Rhys which is doing both big producer house blends as well as singular focused vintage bottlings. I'll take a hard pass on most things from Mumm, Roederer Estate, Schramsburg and similar though....just not my preference, they are too sweet.
Nick87
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Same. Shopped around didn't see much difference. Can't imagine what a new or newer pickup would be with payment and insurance increase at the moment.
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cgasner1
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That’s mainly from all the cyber trucks they are having to buy
BigHornRam
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Wife just took her car in for it's 60,000 mile service work. Wow!
rjthehunter
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I just paid another 6 months today. I had them double check to see if I was getting the best deal. Compared my current rate to 6 different companies and the company I'm with was by far the best rate. I thought that was rather surprising.
Nick87
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In all honesty we had a hail storm come through a couple years back. Insurance went through the roof. They filed all of it as individual claims. Not sure if that's how it's supposed to go but that's what happened.
rjthehunter
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Same. Last year we had a tornado come through along with a couple of hailstorms. Such is life. I did end up with a new roof because of it on my house.
Nick87
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Yup me too. Original roof was only about 4 years old though.
Redmt
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I get a couple of hidden discounts. Shopping around is great if you can find a supplier willing to deliver to where we are. I have a floating $1.00+ price over market cost. Others up here pay nearly $4.00 per on the regular schedule and will call propane has been as high as $7.00 plus $100.00 flat fee for a non scheduled delivery. Our deliveries come from nearly 75 miles away.
rjthehunter
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I was fortunate, mine was original, so 18 years old! I was getting close to needing one.Yup me too. Original roof was only about 4 years old though.
BigHornRam
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This is what you said in first post....
"The price has been pretty stable for years hovering around $2.35-$2.40 . This last fill was $2.97. I understand that most propane comes from Canada."
90% of propane comes from US. Whoever told you most propane comes from Canada mislead you. Sounds like you are getting a better deal than all your neighbors, even with this increase. Be happy!
Redmt
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I probably misspoke with "most". What he did say was that "our" propane came from Canada. The company Ferrell Gas, has branches all over the US. I do get a better price than others around me. I have been an off and on customer with the branch we deal with for close to 40 years. The same branch has gone through a couple ownership changes from a small family owned company to a nationally owned company. Same employees, different employer. They do take care of me.
BigHornRam
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Sounds to me they used the tariff excuse to raise the rate they charged you.
Redmt
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Thinking back a bit, at one time I had asked if Ferrell had their own refinery. They said no that they bought propane from whatever refinery had the best price at the time. For the driver to say mine was from Canada had to be a bunch-O- crap. I'll question the billing when it comes in about the increase. I don't want to burn any bridges because I DO get a better comparable price.
morley.tyler
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This will hurt, as I'm a DOC kinda guy...Willamette Pinot for you.
I was at an industry event in February and they threw out a note that only 27% of the wine consumed in Oregon is from Oregon
SD_Prairie_Goat
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Haven't actually seen much. My professional life involves products made in Mexico and sold in the US. Sales have been slow and honestly feels closer to a recession in SD based on the lack of building right now.
Hoping things turn around, but it's been slow for closer to six months now for various reasons, been getting worried about losing my job, even though I'm a top performer if something doesn't change soon.
Seems everyone is holding their breath waiting to see what happens.
Hoping things turn around, but it's been slow for closer to six months now for various reasons, been getting worried about losing my job, even though I'm a top performer if something doesn't change soon.
Seems everyone is holding their breath waiting to see what happens.
rjthehunter
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We just broke ground on 2 new commercial builds in Sioux Falls last week. Bid some work in Sisseton, Aberdeen, and some more work in Sioux Falls that we didn't get. We usually don't do much on SD, but will go if a client wants us to. It's shaping up to be a pretty busy year.
