338win
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A 700S/A is 7/8” shorter, and 3oz lighter(including bottom metal magazine, spring follower and trigger guard) than a 700L/A, and a 700L/A(including the above) is lighter than most other common S/A bolt actions(again including the above mentioned parts).I had to go check a few rifle actions. Someone claimed 4" difference between a 30-06 and 308 length action. Well I measured a 1903 Springfield, a 700 ADL in 25-06, a 243 Rem 700adl and a Mossberg Patriot in 308. Not anywhere near 4" difference. You don't save all that much weight and the reload time of one to the other doesn't amount to a hill of beans. That was satire wasn't it?
GOT ME!~I had to go check a few rifle actions. Someone claimed 4" difference between a 30-06 and 308 length action. Well I measured a 1903 Springfield, a 700 ADL in 25-06, a 243 Rem 700adl and a Mossberg Patriot in 308. Not anywhere near 4" difference. You don't save all that much weight and the reload time of one to the other doesn't amount to a hill of beans. That was satire wasn't it?
I said “no good reason”.I’m intrigued by the first part. What about magnums? I half agree with you
Quit coming to my lonely spots and I’ll continue to babble on to myself after not seeing another human being for 3-5 days instead of chatting you up.When the dude I find camped in the backcountry elk meadow wants to chat
I do this a lil bitWhen a man uses the term ‘lil’ in place of little.
Can’t argue there. I will say that the 7mm Rem Mag holds a place in my heart though.I said “no good reason”.
As far as the not so good reasons:
1) brass is expensive and hard to come by from top manufacturers.
2) Belts are stupid and only make it harder to make really good brass.
3) I can’t set back and rechamber my barrel to a non-magnum which means that if I’m unhappy with a project, it’s pretty much done and can’t be turned into something else I’m gonna like.
4) My favorite cheap action is a 700, and I like having all three rings of steel. I’ve pierced enough primers pushing the limits that I prefer it happens in a 700 with a 700 extractor. I’ve never had an extractor fail. From what I can tell, the vast majority of the failures occur in magnums. I don’t really want to have to go to an extractor style that sacrifices one of the three rings. That said, the M-16 style is a lot less dangerous than the Sako style, and ironically I love Sako actions, especially the L46/461, L57/579, and L61.
Glad someone said it. That thing is a visual crimeThe Browning logo
Get a 280AI, and some Lapua 30-06 brass. It might not be equal but it’s close enough.Can’t argue there. I will say that the 7mm Rem Mag holds a place in my heart though.
????? There can’t be any good reasons for any of those. Darn good for a CHEAP rifle. Who cares if it’s typical? I just want it big and heavy. Morning is when I’ve killed most of my deer. Just because my two biggest were within minutes of last legal light in the evening means nothing.Remington rifles. Non-typical whitetails. Waterfowl-obsessed hunters. Morning deer hunts.
Sorry, didn't know I needed a reason to not like something for no good reason????? There can’t be any good reasons for any of those. Darn good for a CHEAP rifle. Who cares if it’s typical? I just want it big and heavy. Morning is when I’ve killed most of my deer. Just because my two biggest were within minutes of last legal light in the evening means nothing.
Oh I was just agreeing that there was no good reason.Sorry, didn't know I needed a reason to not like something for no good reason
have one. Love it. Building another. Can’t send out the heavy stuff as fast as the Rem mag, but I don’t hunt elk currently so it doesn’t matter.Get a 280AI, and some Lapua 30-06 brass. It might not be equal but it’s close enough.
I’m thinking N565 should be the ticket with 180s. N560 is too fast…might be just right with light bullets.
I bet with the right powder it’s DARRRRRRN close. If it’s not, you might have a slow barrel on the AI or a fast barrel on the Mag.I don’t like
have one. Love it. Building another Can’t send out the heavy stuff as fast as the Rem mag, but I don’t hunt elk currently so it doesn’t matter.
IMR 7828 has proved to be a good powder for a pretty wide range of weights