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Study shows wolves are linked to killing elk?

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A high-resolution photo shows John Winnie Jr. collecting information about a bull elk killed by wolves.

Newswise — Bull elk in the northwest part of the Yellowstone Ecosystem care more about food than anything else during the winter, and they're paying for it, according to Montana State University researchers.

Oblivious to danger at dinner time, bull elk in the Gallatin Canyon are about six times more likely than females to be killed by wolves, said Scott Creel, an ecologist studying wolf-elk interactions in the Porcupine, Taylor and Tepee/Daly drainages between Bozeman and West Yellowstone. Cow elk, on the other hand, figuratively put down their forks and become vigilant when they sense wolves.

"For elk in winter, there's a trade-off between doing the things that will keep them well fed and doing the things that minimize the risk of falling prey to wolves," Creel said. "Because cows have more stored fat, they are in a better position than bulls to stop foraging, become vigilant and seek cover when wolves are present."

John Winnie Jr., a doctoral student working with Creel, said the researchers originally thought the bulls ignored wolves because the bulls were "the big, bad dudes in town. Wolves aren't going to mess with them."

But the scientists learned differently.

The bull elk are famished, Winnie said. Entering winter in much worse condition than the cows, they're desperately trying to cope with the weight they lost during mating season. They're also trying to chow down when food is hard to find. A bull elk can lose more than 100 pounds from early September until early November. He's already lost 20 percent of his weight when December and January bring some of the winter's worst weather.

"They probably can't afford to be as vigilant as cows," Winnie said. "They simply cannot stop grazing since they are already in such crummy shape."

Creel joked that, "The bulls will pretty much keep eating 'til you pry the grass from their cold, dead lips."

Creel, Winnie, MSU graduate student Dave Christianson and Ken Hamlin, research biologist with Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks, have conducted their research during the past four winters. They expect to continue at least three more years and expand their project to see how elk responses to predators affect calves. Their first scholarly paper on the study has been accepted for publication in the journal "Animal Behavior." It reports that elk, contrary to expectation, form smaller herds when wolves are in the area.

"Prior research with other species has mostly found that prey can reduce the risk of predation by forming larger groups, because big groups have more eyes to detect predators and can defend themselves cooperatively," Creel said. "We were a bit surprised to find that elk break into smaller herds when wolves are present. We think this serves to reduce the odds of being detected."

The study area covers about 125 square kilometers and contains approximately 1,700 elk and five to 15 wolves. The researchers observe the animals with binoculars, radio collars, global positioning systems, scat, tracks and howls.

The study originally focused on direct relationships between elk and wolves, Winnie said. How many elk did the wolves kill? But the researchers eventually noticed indirect effects, too.

"It's pretty clear there are lots of strong responses by elk to wolves," Creel said. "They are not going about things the same way. They are changing pretty much everything we looked at, and it's likely that these changes carry some costs for the elk."

The elk, for example, head into conifer forests to avoid wolves. That means they're eating less grass -- the most calorie-laden food and easiest for them to digest -- and more shrubs, leaves, sticks and small branches.

"Gallatin elk move into the timber when wolves are present, as well as splitting into smaller groups and spending less time eating and more time on guard," Creel said. "Now we're getting information on how these changes might alter their nutrition, birth rates and calf survival."

Funding for Creel's study comes from several sources, including the National Science Foundation. Winnie received fellowships from the NSF's EPSCoR program, MSU's Big Sky Institute, and Transboundary Research.

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"It's pretty clear there are lots of strong responses by elk to wolves," Creel said. "They are not going about things the same way. They are changing pretty much everything we looked at, and it's likely that these changes carry some costs for the elk."

The elk, for example, head into conifer forests to avoid wolves. That means they're eating less grass -- the most calorie-laden food and easiest for them to digest -- and more shrubs, leaves, sticks and small branches.

"Gallatin elk move into the timber when wolves are present, as well as splitting into smaller groups and spending less time eating and more time on guard," Creel said. "Now we're getting information on how these changes might alter their nutrition, birth rates and calf survival."


So with these known effects the wolves are having on the elk what is the effect going to be in regards to future hunting season's???
 
Ithaca - don't tell me my sarcasm is wasted on you? :eek:

I simply mean that several folks would have me believe that wolves have NO effect on elk populations, while others would lead me to believe that wolves are destroying entire herds of elk. Personally, I believe the truth is (as usual) somewhere in the middle and this study seems to be indicating that we can expect the impact to be felt most on the population of bull elk.
 
Calif., I figured you were kidding, but I'm trying to keep the discussion going on my topic in the Elk section.

Anyone who thinks the wolves aren't going to have any effect on the elk population is as crazy as the crowd that thinks they'll wipe out the elk herds.

I've always believed that most of the effects will be beneficial and it will make the elk hunting more challenging. That's fine with me. I can understand why some other hunters are easily discouraged by that and will probably give up.
 
"I've always believed that most of the effects will be beneficial and it will make the elk hunting more challenging. That's fine with me. I can understand why some other hunters are easily discouraged by that and will probably give up."


Fine with you Ithaca, because of the fact that you havent hunted Elk in over 12 year's? and don't seem to up to the challange one way or the other?

We all knew it would have an effect,the big issue was how it will have to be handled.
Shorten season's?
Close Unit's?
Either why it fit's into the agenda of the animal right freak's.
 
MD, Why don't you ride your ATV back to California? I quit hunting them because it was too easy. I got bored and tired of short hunts and then a lot of work bringing out the meat. I might just take it up again, now that it's a new ballgame.

"We all knew it would have an effect,the big issue was how it will have to be handled.
Shorten season's?
Close Unit's?"

None of the above. Most hunters won't be able to adapt to the new ballgame, so less elk will get shot. ATV road hunters might as well sell their rifles. Maybe F&G Depts. will have to lengthen the seasons.

[ 08-07-2004, 23:55: Message edited by: Ithaca 37 ]
 
Ithaca,

Dont waste your time on MD4ME, she still hasnt found a single clue in life...

We both know that the real hunters will kill elk no matter if the season is 5 days or 5 weeks. I kind of like shorter seasons...seperates the serious hunters from the hacks.

The serious hunters will have the "ballgame" figured out long before the season ever opens...

I mean, lets be honest, if you dont have enough ambition to climb off an atv DURING hunting season, how much preseason work will the same person do BEFORE hunting season????
 
I imagine that even with wolves, the same 5% of hunters will kill 90% of the elk. Just look on this web site. There are a handful of people that WILL have their game by the end of the season.
 
"MD, Why don't you ride your ATV back to California? I quit hunting them because it was too easy. I got bored and tired of short hunts and then a lot of work bringing out the meat. I might just take it up again, now that it's a new ballgame."

Great,then we can expect that video ?
I am sure moosie could find someone on the board that would be willing to do all the work packing out your wall hanger.
You could then combine the hunting video with a how to on game care & packing.
I would think just having someone along to video the hunt would add enough so it won't bore you.


"Dont waste your time on MD4ME, she still hasnt found a single clue in life..."

I don't know about that Buzz.
Just in this forum alone I have learned that ,

1. Having a sence of humor is a good thing.
2. That some people put way to much work into trying to convince other that have all the answer's to life.
3. That a big ego always make's the owner look small.
 
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