LuketheDog
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Lessons learned (or at least reinforced).
5. We are damn lucky to have smart guys like Steve and Randy who have created these platforms for so many hunters to educate themselves.
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Lessons learned (or at least reinforced).
5. We are damn lucky to have smart guys like Steve and Randy who have created these platforms for so many hunters to educate themselves.
...I think the answer to Rinella's question from months ago (paraphrased) "When Rob Bishop sees a beautiful mountain, why does he hate it?" The answer is that he hates that it is not being used to "benefit people." By that, he means it is not producing obvious economic (industrial, agricultural) output. If there are no logs or minerals or crops coming out of it, then it is just sitting there, wasting away. He does not assign any value to recreation or wildlife and clean air/water are just nice-to-have. It is akin to the popular sentiment during the 1800s: "prosper, multiply, and subdue the earth."...
Edit: not interested in personal attacks, leg humping shitzu's, nor grammar Nazis.
Your two buddies are prime examples of the dangers of not doing some fact checking and believing everything you hear as fact. If you take any sniper of an issue without getting the whole story it can paint a very distorted picture. That's the biggest battle we are facing right now with public land issues is dismissing the mis information and getting the masses informed.
Appreciate your opinion as well and can certainly respect/empathize with your position on the matter.Sytes, I concur with your conjecture regarding Bishop's perspective. You have expressed a valid opinion about finding a balance point. My point of balance is weighted toward the preservation / conservation, wildlife, and wildlife habitat end when it comes to much of the public landscape.
Was the following really necessary to complete your post? It actually detracted from what I had viewed as good points.
...There are opinions that may differ with the vocals here. I respect your opinions as would hope to be reciprocated. Cheers all... Just one outdoor enthusiasts pov.
Sorry; 'lacks justification. Carry on.The remainder explains the unfortunate need to place the comment...
And this here is a reason he continues to build a base. His message resonates with many Americans including many outdoor activity based Americans. He wants jobs. He wants multi use to mean multi use. Play and hobbies such as hunting are just that... Jobs and domestic extraction add to the American economy for domestic and export value, employment, families enhanced opportunities because of employment, etc...
Finding that point somewhere between these two extremes is the interest of many Americans, including myself.
Edit: not interested in personal attacks, leg humping shitzu's, nor grammar Nazis. There are opinions that may differ with the vocals here. I respect your opinions as would hope to be reciprocated. Cheers all... Just one outdoor enthusiasts pov.
I listened to Rinella's podcast before I listened to Randy's view on Bishop. It was very interesting because I thought Bishop made good points about transferring to the state to allow for better management of the land. After listening to Randy explain state transfer, I changed my opinion. It seems like Bishop and other politicians never actually have a plan to implement 'better management' by the state as well as prevent the selling of those lands. Also, I am from the East, and I never questioned state management of land because in GA the WMAs seem to work well to me.
I feel like most people only gain exposure to this mindset by being in the hunting world (podcasts, social media). If I wasn't a hunter, I may never have been concerned with public land issues in the West.
How do you reach more people in the East that may not be hunters or fishermen?