EastTNHunter
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Ms. Wllm "Look hunny that's kinda the perfect truck for you"What are you saying about groceries?
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That is part of the reason I was interested in the Maverick. It's price actually seemed appropriate for the size. Of course, on the used market they are going for $35K-$40K which is nonsense when you get an F150 for roughly similar prices, although not as new.So related to this thread, but maybe belongs somewhere else - I’ve always been curious what the draw is to the compact trucks? I’ve owned two rangers, an explorer, and a blazer. I always found them smallish for my needs in terms of storage, towing capacity, and roominess. None of them seemed to get much better fuel economy than full-size truck/SUVs.
I also found that their initial costs aren’t that much less expensive. From my experience I’ve found compacts at most 25% cheaper to buy and own and probably have about 50% the capacity, room, payload, and towing. Part of it might be that I’m bigger guy and a tall family so compact trucks always feel tight.
All that being said, compact truck guys are usually religious in their love for them and I’m sure that’s for a reason. I figured this group could educate me if anyone could.
You're about 10 weeks too late for that homey, that ship has sailed.Wllm "... 2 things, 1. I'm now questioning everything in our relationship 2. Douglas is going to have a field day with this when I tell him"
Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. The Tacoma is lots of fun & sporty to drive,at times. And I sure wished I had taken the F-150 the other day to the docs...the ducts in the Tacoma are rat clogged and the AC was nothing. My ass was sore by the time I got home and I smelled like a goat.So related to this thread, but maybe belongs somewhere else - I’ve always been curious what the draw is to the compact trucks? I’ve owned two rangers, an explorer, and a blazer. I always found them smallish for my needs in terms of storage, towing capacity, and roominess. None of them seemed to get much better fuel economy than full-size truck/SUVs.
I also found that their initial costs aren’t that much less expensive. From my experience I’ve found compacts at most 25% cheaper to buy and own and probably have about 50% the capacity, room, payload, and towing. Part of it might be that I’m bigger guy and a tall family so compact trucks always feel tight.
All that being said, compact truck guys are usually religious in their love for them and I’m sure that’s for a reason. I figured this group could educate me if anyone could.
So related to this thread, but maybe belongs somewhere else - I’ve always been curious what the draw is to the compact trucks? I’ve owned two rangers, an explorer, and a blazer. I always found them smallish for my needs in terms of storage, towing capacity, and roominess. None of them seemed to get much better fuel economy than full-size truck/SUVs.
I also found that their initial costs aren’t that much less expensive. From my experience I’ve found compacts at most 25% cheaper to buy and own and probably have about 50% the capacity, room, payload, and towing. Part of it might be that I’m bigger guy and a tall family so compact trucks always feel tight.
All that being said, compact truck guys are usually religious in their love for them and I’m sure that’s for a reason. I figured this group could educate me if anyone could.
How do you like your gladiator?What are you saying about groceries?
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Simply look at what is popular in the rest of the world. Americans love driving empty full size trucks, not so much anywhere else.So related to this thread, but maybe belongs somewhere else - I’ve always been curious what the draw is to the compact trucks? I’ve owned two rangers, an explorer, and a blazer. I always found them smallish for my needs in terms of storage, towing capacity, and roominess. None of them seemed to get much better fuel economy than full-size truck/SUVs.
I also found that their initial costs aren’t that much less expensive. From my experience I’ve found compacts at most 25% cheaper to buy and own and probably have about 50% the capacity, room, payload, and towing. Part of it might be that I’m bigger guy and a tall family so compact trucks always feel tight.
All that being said, compact truck guys are usually religious in their love for them and I’m sure that’s for a reason. I figured this group could educate me if anyone could.
Im puzzled why GM doesnt sell more of these. Wholly smokes they are an off road beast. The 2023 looks even better on an already great looking truck. For GMC fans they are coming out with an AT4X with the same suspension as the zr2.I have owned both, am a bigger guy. I had a jacked up 82 Chevy in late high school and college. I loved it, but it rode like a brick and was downright scary on the highway.
My gift to myself after college graduation was a 1998 Nissan Frontier. I wanted better fuel economy and reliability. It was okay at best. It only topped out at ~20 MPGs on the highway. I like it at best. It was too small. My should hit the window and head was tucked into the sunroof. I bought on impulse and sold.
I have had multiple full-size Chevys and Fords. The Ford F-150 Lariat was sweet but sucked gas, and I had to sell due to divorce.
I owned a Ranger after my divorce and it was too damn small, but I was on a tight budget.
My most recent 2016 Chevy 1500 is now owned by my foster son and it has 200k on it. The only non-wear and tear issue Clarence has had is the end links on the front suspension. My head tucked into the sunroof too.
I like trucks… I wanted a new one. My buddy is a Taco lover. I never really got in his, and honestly the cheap ass materials big me. I decided to get a TRD Pro for off-roading. I went and drove one. I was unimpressed for the price. It was nice, but my head hit the roof and they’re dogs.
I didn’t know what to do… I was going to go big truck, and ran into my ZR2. I sat in it and fell in like. It feels more spacious than my 1500, and is definitely a mid-sized pickup. Then I drove it, and fell in love. It’s fast, and drives like a sports truck. I get 25 mpg and right about 400 horse on the highway now after intake, pipes, and chip. It has all the off-road stuff I love. I go to the ORV park, trail, and more. It pulls my trailer with ease. It isn’t perfect. The tranny shift points can bug me, the interior is somewhere between a Tacoma and A Denali, but the truck fits me. That’s the key.
I think I want the new ZR2 eventually, but who knows. I love trucks.
Im puzzled why GM doesnt sell more of these. Wholly smokes they are an off road beast. The 2023 looks even better on an already great looking truck. For GMC fans they are coming out with an AT4X with the same suspension as the zr2.
Great point. I take my truck where no crew cab 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton could go.Simply look at what is popular in the rest of the world. Americans love driving empty full size trucks, not so much anywhere else.
I do agree that it seems like the little trucks should get better mileage.
One reason I would drive one is to be easier to park. Parking spots keep getting smaller it seems.
I guess so, but not sure why that matters. My full size Trail Boss gets the same MPG that a Tacoma gets. Fits 5 adults easily (4 extremely comfortably), hauled 4 adults and a truckbed of luggage on a 1600 mile trip and averaged 19mpg doing, and even towed a 5000lb trailer 800 miles and for 14mpg doing that. I get that same performance if I’m driving alone or with the family.Simply look at what is popular in the rest of the world. Americans love driving empty full size trucks, not so much anywhere else.
I do agree that it seems like the little trucks should get better mileage.
One reason I would drive one is to be easier to park. Parking spots keep getting smaller it seems.
GMC AT4x Click and drool.Im puzzled why GM doesnt sell more of these. Wholly smokes they are an off road beast. The 2023 looks even better on an already great looking truck. For GMC fans they are coming out with an AT4X with the same suspension as the zr2.
Yessir...a 2" lifted "Denali" with skid plates, less shiny stuff, and muted interior decor.GMC AT4x Click and drool.
GM really did a good job inside and out. Class leading horsepower and towing to be rumored at 7700 pounds. I dont know which one i like more.GMC AT4x Click and drool.